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Fiber is the way to go, bury some lead cables underground yourself and have a professional come and blow the fiber through. No, you cant terminate, blow or weld the fiber yourself unless you have the right equipment. The equipment alltogether is around 25kish

Some stated above you can use cat6a, but i wouldnt recommend it. Especially when ran together with a powerline. I currently blow fiber offshore, so i wouldnt know about costs. But i guess its around your friends budget though.

EDIT: Forgot to ask, does your friend have copperbased bandwidth? Old houses usually run by copperbased transmission methods which cant be run along side with fiber.
Edited by Inconvenient - 5/8/12 at 8:18am
post #12 of 15
Cat6a in a grounded copper pipe 8" from the electrical line in a plastic conduit should do it, no?

Why not just run CAT6a everywhere since it'll be cheaper since you'll be buying a spool of it anyways.


CAT6 = 1Gbps at 330ft
CAT6a = 10Gbps at 330ft
Edited by DuckieHo - 5/8/12 at 8:17am
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I understand that Fiber is the way to go. I would love to help him on a fiber set up. seams like it would be fun and be a true back bone ready for what ever comes his way in the future and future owners for that matter.

Does the conduit need to be copper? or would galvanized steel also work (or is that not for outside use, rust??) and by grounding you are referring to putting a 5-7 foot long grounding rod and grounding strap (at both ends?) right. I know copper would work better but for a 10 foot length of 1/2" its $12 vs $2... going 250 feet would be $300+ just in pipe.

How far apart would you put it is both AC and Cat6/a where in plastic conduit. 2 feet?

He would most likely run Cat6a the whole way and after the switch... I just had heard that Cat6a can get bulky at the connectors and may not be as "easy" to work with when you have a few RJ45 jacks right next to each other like on a switch. My friend also has a side business which uses Cat5e cable so he already has a spool of that available.
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I understand that Fiber is the way to go. I would love to help him on a fiber set up. seams like it would be fun and be a true back bone ready for what ever comes his way in the future and future owners for that matter.
Does the conduit need to be copper? or would galvanized steel also work (or is that not for outside use, rust??) and by grounding you are referring to putting a 5-7 foot long grounding rod and grounding strap (at both ends?) right. I know copper would work better but for a 10 foot length of 1/2" its $12 vs $2... going 250 feet would be $300+ just in pipe.
How far apart would you put it is both AC and Cat6/a where in plastic conduit. 2 feet?
He would most likely run Cat6a the whole way and after the switch... I just had heard that Cat6a can get bulky at the connectors and may not be as "easy" to work with when you have a few RJ45 jacks right next to each other like on a switch. My friend also has a side business which uses Cat5e cable so he already has a spool of that available.

Is anyone an electrician? What is the official guideline for CAT and electrical installation? I thought it was 12" and perpendicular crossing?


The plastic conduit for the AC wire is for protection of the wire... and might be an installation requirement.
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No guidelines afaik for data/telephones in most countries

and plastic conduit for the power cable is not safe, it has to be from top of my memory either 30cm or 60cm deep and armoured sheath cable ie to stop spades and such damaging it
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