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I'm currently using a Lumia 900 after using both an iPhone 4 and some Android devices (mostly the Atrix and Transformer). I personally love the device. This probably has a lot to do with the fact that my phone is a phone. I don't need to have a full fledged computer in m hands if it does what I need. Email, social, texting, and calling are all done extremely well.

You mention that the smoked thing is crap but I disagree. I have a tiny fraction of the apps I had on my iPhone and have barely lost any functionality. So much is built into the phone that I don't need to download 50 extra apps to do it all. At least that's been my experience.

You are limited to the color options of the phone UI for a few reasons. 1) You can use either a light or dark theme and so the colors have to work equally well for both. 2) The color isn't just for individual icons, it propagates to accent colors in apps and across the platform. This gives a unified feel to the device and makes apps feel like extensions to the OS. I love it.

I find the browser to be sufficient but again, I don't expect much. I'm on a phone and I'm not reading novels. It loads fast, displays well, and works just fine.

It seems you are really accustomed to Android so perhaps you would be happier with an Android device again. WP7 does everything I need and more and I don't require a completely open, rootable, system since it already fulfills my needs. To each their own.
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I'm currently using a Lumia 900 after using both an iPhone 4 and some Android devices (mostly the Atrix and Transformer). I personally love the device. This probably has a lot to do with the fact that my phone is a phone. I don't need to have a full fledged computer in m hands if it does what I need. Email, social, texting, and calling are all done extremely well.
You mention that the smoked thing is crap but I disagree. I have a tiny fraction of the apps I had on my iPhone and have barely lost any functionality. So much is built into the phone that I don't need to download 50 extra apps to do it all. At least that's been my experience.
You are limited to the color options of the phone UI for a few reasons. 1) You can use either a light or dark theme and so the colors have to work equally well for both. 2) The color isn't just for individual icons, it propagates to accent colors in apps and across the platform. This gives a unified feel to the device and makes apps feel like extensions to the OS. I love it.
I find the browser to be sufficient but again, I don't expect much. I'm on a phone and I'm not reading novels. It loads fast, displays well, and works just fine.
It seems you are really accustomed to Android so perhaps you would be happier with an Android device again. WP7 does everything I need and more and I don't require a completely open, rootable, system since it already fulfills my needs. To each their own.

For people that want (not need) slightly more functionality than a dumb phone, I agree that windows phone is perfectly acceptable. ICS, however, is the most fully fledged, fucntional, capable OS out there. When I think of ICS compared to iOS and WP7, I think of that song "anything you can do I can do better..."
post #13 of 19
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For people that want (not need) slightly more functionality than a dumb phone, I agree that windows phone is perfectly acceptable. ICS, however, is the most fully fledged, fucntional, capable OS out there. When I think of ICS compared to iOS and WP7, I think of that song "anything you can do I can do better..."

Slightly? Windows Phone 7 does just about everything iOS or Android can do out of the box. All the platforms do some things better and some things worse but WP7 is in no way less of an OS. With built in Facebook feeds and chat (integrates into the messaging app), Bing search functionality, and customization of the colors it arguably does more than some other platforms stock.
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Slightly? Windows Phone 7 does just about everything iOS or Android can do out of the box. All the platforms do some things better and some things worse but WP7 is in no way less of an OS. With built in Facebook feeds and chat (integrates into the messaging app), Bing search functionality, and customization of the colors it arguably does more than some other platforms stock.

Facebook is third party and is generally pre installed on most android phones. In regards to bing: I think the only people that use it are people with Windows Phones, and the color customization is outdone by android's ability to switch launchers, widgets, and live wallpapers. You're right that WP7 does some things better than Android, but I think that Android does a lot more better than WP7. Out of the box, I'm sure WP7 is excellent, but I wouldn't want to have one long term. WP7 is still missing the ecosystem that iOS and Android built a couple of years ago.
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Facebook is third party and is generally pre installed on most android phones. In regards to bing: I think the only people that use it are people with Windows Phones, and the color customization is outdone by android's ability to switch launchers, widgets, and live wallpapers. You're right that WP7 does some things better than Android, but I think that Android does a lot more better than WP7. Out of the box, I'm sure WP7 is excellent, but I wouldn't want to have one long term. WP7 is still missing the ecosystem that iOS and Android built a couple of years ago.

No, not just Bing the search engine. Using the hardware search button on a Windows Phone you can: scan QR and barcodes, bring up restaurants, points of interest, and shopping, identify music on radio or humming, scan book, movie, or cd covers, use text to voice, translate live text (I.E. overlay translation on text in image itself), search the web, and search the marketplace. That was 7-9 different apps on my iPhone, all done from one built in button on my Windows phone.

There is a lot of subjective on what an individual will prefer but you also can't compare live tiles to widgets. Again, it comes back to having a uniform experience across the platform for ease of use and efficiency. Android widgets looks radically different from one to another. It's just different. Although I will say I have yet to use ANY Android device that didn't lag when flipping screens or scrolling. Ever.

Windows Phone is extremely intuitive to use. One of the biggest issues with people coming to Windows Phone is the things that would be natural if they had a clean slate are skewed depending on the platform they came from. The actions, interface, and gestures on WP all make perfect sense.
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Well, IEatfish, I'd have to disagree with you completely. WP7 lacks a ton of functionality. Again, there's no way to establish a default search engine or browser in WP7. It's IE and Bing. That's all. It's the default. Can't be changed.

With Android:
I can have a nifty little icon in the top battery bar to show me exactly how much time I have left.
I can change icons, colors, wallpapers, themes, and more.
I can go back to something I typed, add an apostrophe without having to delete the entire word.
I have a choice in Keyboards.
I can make shortcuts to any action I want, media controls, data and power controls, apps, etc.
Widgets. I can get the same updates from Facebook, google+, Twitter, etc, all without leaving my homescreen.
The color theme in Office cannot be switched out.
Finding files on the phone (such as spreadsheets, documents, etc) is pretty much impossible.


Again, I thoroughly ran through WP7, because, like I stated, I really wanted to love the phone and the OS. But it lacks in so many areas it's not even funny. Functionality wise it's alright, it does a lot of things very well, but it's missing some very important features that just about every smartphone really should have. Some things are forgivable, others not.

I traded it in today for an HTC One X, and couldn't be happier. Everything I want and need out of a phone for School, business, and personal life is all right there. Can't say that about WP7. And, it's way faster than the Lumia 900, when moving screens, opening apps, taking pictures. It's just a better phone hands down.
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you get another menu on top if you start to swipe from the top to the bottom!they erase the top bar but by swiping down you can show it!
post #18 of 19
bing search main issue is this:often there is no hourly,daily ,3 days,week,month etc search option so often i am using bing on android and i have to go to google search cause bing doesnt do it!and sadly facebook+skype might be nice but in my book g+ +hangout and their new page of live feed of handout is truelly better,map!gees i tried it on nokia ,it was so sparse!but theen it is probably an option,but in android you got lot of option the default search engine you do about:debug and you get more functionality if you need those .i bet with the upcoming chrome for android it will be even smoother.(i tested chrome on window and it is better!but it keep crashing cause i have counter mesure in place and it kept trying to find sulotion so they can spam me !(hahaha)
so no for me even with all this i will move on to wp soon ,i could root the phone but why bother i can have all i need without the spam via ms!
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Well, IEatfish, I'd have to disagree with you completely. WP7 lacks a ton of functionality. Again, there's no way to establish a default search engine or browser in WP7. It's IE and Bing. That's all. It's the default. Can't be changed.
With Android:
I can have a nifty little icon in the top battery bar to show me exactly how much time I have left.
I can change icons, colors, wallpapers, themes, and more.
I can go back to something I typed, add an apostrophe without having to delete the entire word.
I have a choice in Keyboards.
I can make shortcuts to any action I want, media controls, data and power controls, apps, etc.
Widgets. I can get the same updates from Facebook, google+, Twitter, etc, all without leaving my homescreen.
The color theme in Office cannot be switched out.
Finding files on the phone (such as spreadsheets, documents, etc) is pretty much impossible.
Again, I thoroughly ran through WP7, because, like I stated, I really wanted to love the phone and the OS. But it lacks in so many areas it's not even funny. Functionality wise it's alright, it does a lot of things very well, but it's missing some very important features that just about every smartphone really should have. Some things are forgivable, others not.
I traded it in today for an HTC One X, and couldn't be happier. Everything I want and need out of a phone for School, business, and personal life is all right there. Can't say that about WP7. And, it's way faster than the Lumia 900, when moving screens, opening apps, taking pictures. It's just a better phone hands down.

Again, the things you don't like aren't things that WP doesn't do as much as things that Android does do. If you ignore rooting and look at phones as they are sold, that also removes many of Android's 'advantages'.

And I don't quite get what you mean about the apostrophe. You can tap on the word and it will often show word you want with the apostrophe. If not, just press and hold and put the cursor where you want...

Clearly WP isn't for you and that's okay. From the things you seem to want to do, Android is really your only option. You want a completely customizable platform. I want a smartphone. It's just silly to see so many people whine about it being underdeveloped. People going from iOS to Android complain about the complexity, responsiveness, build quality, quality apps, etc. People going from Android to iOS complain about the lack of customizing, restricted platform, uniform look, etc. Many of your complaints go for iOS just as much as WP. WP has plenty of advantages and disadvantages just like the other platforms. That doesn't make it better or worse overall, just better or worse for you. There is a line between lacking features and not having something in another OS and just because one OS has something doesn't mean all the others are less because of it.
Edited by IEATFISH - 5/8/12 at 9:46pm
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