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Same, these unfounded comments saying "Seagate = crap" are really starting to bother me. I have personally never had a Seagate drive fail on me, but then again I generally take care of my computer equipment. My sister had a laptop Seagate drive fail on her that she baked because she put her laptop on her bed too much.

They're not "unfounded," in my case anyway. Up until recently, almost every drive failure I dealt with at work involved a Seagate, be it a Cheetah, Barracuda, or Momentus. Within the last few months, though, other manufacturers are catching up in terms of the number of failures that I've been dealing with.
    
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They're not "unfounded," in my case anyway. Up until recently, almost every drive failure I dealt with at work involved a Seagate, be it a Cheetah, Barracuda, or Momentus. Within the last few months, though, other manufacturers are catching up in terms of the number of failures that I've been dealing with.

Personally, or are you fixing customers/businesses hard drives?

Many consumer electronics such as those that come in laptops are made with Seagate drives. In fact, all the fat PS3's came with Seagate 5400rpm drives. I'm not sure what they use in the newer slim ps3's, but you don't hear people widely complaining that their PS3 hard drives are constantly failing for no reason.

Most people don't understand how to take proper care of computers, especially laptops. I know from experience that a lot of people (girls especially) like to leave their laptops on their beds which blocks the vents and cooks the drives. I can only imagine what other things people do to their computers that they don't discuss when they bring their computer in to be fixed.
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Personally, or are you fixing customers/businesses hard drives?
Many consumer electronics such as those that come in laptops are made with Seagate drives. In fact, all the fat PS3's came with Seagate 5400rpm drives. I'm not sure what they use in the newer slim ps3's, but you don't hear people widely complaining that their PS3 hard drives are constantly failing for no reason.
Most people don't understand how to take proper care of computers, especially laptops. I know from experience that a lot of people (girls especially) like to leave their laptops on their beds which blocks the vents and cooks the drives. I can only imagine what other things people do to their computers that they don't discuss when they bring their computer in to be fixed.

Business. I don't work in an environment where people bring their computers to me; I'm in-house IT. All the machines we deal with are Dells, be it Optiplexes, Precisions, or Latitudes. The manufacturer of the drive that each machines uses seems to be random, so it's always fun to crack the case of a problem PC and see, lo and behold, another Seagate.

Like I said, though, Seagate has been no worse than any other manufacturer lately.
    
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Business. I don't work in an environment where people bring their computers to me; I'm in-house IT. All the machines we deal with are Dells, be it Optiplexes, Precisions, or Latitudes. The manufacturer of the drive that each machines uses seems to be random, so it's always fun to crack the case of a problem PC and see, lo and behold, another Seagate.
Like I said, though, Seagate has been no worse than any other manufacturer lately.

Seagate does own the enterprise storage space though...
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True or not, all of the Poweredge boxes we've received since SAS came into style have used Toshiba or Hitachi drives.
    
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All the companies are well ahead of schedule by 6-12 months. SSDs will be hitting the SAS 6Gb/s limit with the next generation of controllers. This is one reason why even Intel has a PCIe SSD 910 now.
LSI sampled in July 2011: http://www.lsi.com/about/newsroom/Pages/20110725pr.aspx
PMC-Sierra shipped in January 2012: http://investor.pmcs.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=74533&p=irol-newsCorporateArticle&ID=1654450&highlight=
Hitachi and Seagate demoed in May 2012.
SAS Roadmap: http://www.scsita.org/sas_library/2011/06/serial-attached-scsi-master-roadmap.html
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to me it looks like they are right on track with their roadmap



anyway.. its always fun to see standards evolving as fast as they are these days
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to me it looks like they are right on track with their roadmap
...they are obviously ahead of their roadmap by 6-12 months... so they are NOT sticking to their roadmaps.

Hence, I believe they are rolling out SAS 12Gb/s faster due to SSD bottlenecks.
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Darn it I read a 12 GB SSD as in storage amount doh.gif
would be pretty cool though smile.gif
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Seagate does own the enterprise storage space though...

In what? Quoting 15K SAS drives? 2.5" 1TB SAS?

Most of 1-2TB SATA drives I'm seeing in the hosting / enterprise industry is using WD RE4's, and Hitachi Ultrastars. For SAS 10-15K drives they are mostly seagate and hitachi. Recently I'm starting to see more and more seagate 1-2TB SATA and Hitachi SATA enterprise "grade" drives in racks, compared to the dominance of the RE3's/RE4's. FWIW: over 6000 hours on some drives and they are still kicking strong.

I also have a few drives that has over 800 hours for my own personal systems, and none has fail. Laptop drives fail more often due to higher heat and obviously shock.
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Did you mean 60,000 and 8,000 respectively? 6K hours isn't even a year.
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