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They said they will get some more in this week. I saw 4 in stock yesterday I think, but the wife just approved the new camera deal as long as its the Sony one in the Taylor Swift commercials and if she gets it for Xmas. I also gotta buy more fittings and SSD's/HDD's... argh! I'm getting sick of spending money on this rig and I don't have a triple monitor setup yet haha!

Hahaha well you're super committed so you can't stop now! You will love the triple monitor setup, I can assure you of that wink.gif man I hope that's true that they really have more coming in - and that they stay at that 169.99 price. It could really help me out that's for sure.
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Here is a small update. Put together the AC PowerAdjust II - Ultra's in the 5.25" bay mount and the black faceplate on the Aquaero PRO. I was a bit disappointed that the faceplate for the PowerAdjusts had a scratch on it. The plate, screws and mounts were all in one ziplock bag so they were all swimming against each other with the faceplate unprotected during shipping. But I am still amazed how beautiful the presentation turned out. If you spend hundreds of bucks on your rad and fan setup, no ordinary cheap fan controller can do it justice like the Aquaero. I just wish it didn't cost alot lol. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Missing one of the PowerAdjust Ultra's really sticks out like a sore thumb so I'm going to hold off installing them for now. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
LUCKILY FrozenCPU just got some in today!
I gotta check if I really need to install the waterblock for the Aquaero PRO. If I do, it is going to make the loop a bit more complicated than I wanted it to be. Perhaps incorporating Bitspower Crystal Links in doing so, but at this time I would rather spend money on replacing my SSD for either two OCZ Vectors or Samsung 840 Pro for RAID 0.

You gotta let us know how much heat that aquero puts out. I think it's pretty crazy they have a waterblock for that thing. Maybe it doesn't really get that hot and aquacomputer made it just cause they could? Lol. And you must go with the 840s instead of the vectors. I trust Samsung ten fold compared to ocz in terms of SSD's.

I have pretty good experience with the crystal links as well. They're amazing imo, and really solid. I have crystal links going from my reservoirs to my pumps because any other fittings would have been too big, and they've been leak free since day one lol
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I have just completed a STH10 build myself, very similar setup to yours, except I used 3x480 rads. I am going to create my own thread, but wanted to share my experience working with this case and all of these components.

The 560 rads does fit in this case, but they do so barely with very little clearance. Like you said, you have to remove the entire top panel of the case which is not only looks bad, but more importantly introduces a lot of dust to components simply because now the top intake and the motherboard has nothing in between them. I have also checked it myself by comparing the measurements (I believe the rad is 605mm in length), and it's really hard if not impossible to utilize the back compartment of the case for cable management, which means you need both intake and outtake to the rads to run on the front side of it. To me managing these 560 rads might be a big headache for simply no improvement on temperatures. In fact, as you now have to use 140mm fans, you have a noise problem as the dB ratings/static pressures for the 140mm fans are not that great. With 480 rads, you could get noiseblocker fans which have an amazing 2.2 static pressure and are extremely quiet.

I'm not trying to ruin it for you, you do seem like you are on the early stages of the build and might want to rethink if you really need 560 rads on this case. Have a look at my setup and see how cable and the tube management are managed thanks to the extra spaces at the top and bottom compartments.



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i personaly always use 120mm rads over 140mm because the the great fan choice... that said, there have been some great 140mm fans recently (i personaly love the 140mm PWM cougars)... cant wait to see where this goes smile.gif
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Hahaha well you're super committed so you can't stop now! You will love the triple monitor setup, I can assure you of that wink.gif man I hope that's true that they really have more coming in - and that they stay at that 169.99 price. It could really help me out that's for sure.
You gotta let us know how much heat that aquero puts out. I think it's pretty crazy they have a waterblock for that thing. Maybe it doesn't really get that hot and aquacomputer made it just cause they could? Lol. And you must go with the 840s instead of the vectors. I trust Samsung ten fold compared to ocz in terms of SSD's.
I have pretty good experience with the crystal links as well. They're amazing imo, and really solid. I have crystal links going from my reservoirs to my pumps because any other fittings would have been too big, and they've been leak free since day one lol

Hehe well after putting this many chips in, there is no stopping now. I'm trying to finish this soon because I want to make a seperate gaming pc with that i5 3570K with the Merlin ST-10 (if it will ever get released).

With the Aquaero, I will probably message Shoggy to see if its really necessary since I'm going to be routing all the fans through the Poweradjust Ultras. Since I think most of the heat will be routed through there, it should give the main unit some slack to be passively air cooled on the stock heat sink. And I REALLY am not looking forward to rerouting the tubing just to accomodate that little block. LOL!

I'm thinking I will make the Crystal Links the cherry on top of this project after I get all the custom wiring and sleeving done. I think they are going to make them into the same color options they have for their reservoirs (ie. ICE Red, ICE Black and ICE Blue) and it would look REALLY nice to match it all up.

I'll go with the Samsungs to keep the color scheme consistent, but the price is way too much to stomach atm. Since I'm going to RAID them, I have to read up if some of the SSD specs matter. If not, I will probably just get some SSD's from the previous generation that is less expensive.
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I have just completed a STH10 build myself, very similar setup to yours, except I used 3x480 rads. I am going to create my own thread, but wanted to share my experience working with this case and all of these components.
The 560 rads does fit in this case, but they do so barely with very little clearance. Like you said, you have to remove the entire top panel of the case which is not only looks bad, but more importantly introduces a lot of dust to components simply because now the top intake and the motherboard has nothing in between them. I have also checked it myself by comparing the measurements (I believe the rad is 605mm in length), and it's really hard if not impossible to utilize the back compartment of the case for cable management, which means you need both intake and outtake to the rads to run on the front side of it. To me managing these 560 rads might be a big headache for simply no improvement on temperatures. In fact, as you now have to use 140mm fans, you have a noise problem as the dB ratings/static pressures for the 140mm fans are not that great. With 480 rads, you could get noiseblocker fans which have an amazing 2.2 static pressure and are extremely quiet.
I'm not trying to ruin it for you, you do seem like you are on the early stages of the build and might want to rethink if you really need 560 rads on this case. Have a look at my setup and see how cable and the tube management are managed thanks to the extra spaces at the top and bottom compartments. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)




I somewhat totally agree with you, but the rads were all purchased before I even knew I was going to tone down the build into a GTX 690 (originally planned for 3 way SLI/Xfire) and before Kepler was even released or knew what it was capable of. Not to mention that I was under assumption that you could fit 560 rads anywhere in the STH-10 before I pulled the trigger on it. I was also going to get blocks for the motherboard and RAM when I found out it was pretty much useless and just for looks.

I'm not sure why they made it a couple inches shorter in the upper chamber. The dust isn't too much of a problem since I have all the fans blowing into the case. I would normally have intake on one side and exhaust on the other but the heat output is very weak given the size of the rads and that they are overkill. Most of the dust around the top area are getting sucked into the filters and there is some air blowing out the top. Tons of positive pressure.

If I could do this all again, I probably would tone down to a couple of 480 Monstas or try those Aquacomputer AMS 480's. Then again, I thought it would be really cool to have three 560's and it would be even more of a headache to sell these rads off. Perhaps I will tone down to just 2 of them and rewire everything with the PSU on top. However I still have the personally sleeve alot of the wiring as it stands.

Also I'm not exactly in the "early stages" of this build. I started posting this way back earlier in the year but other things kept getting in the way of properly finishing it. It is pretty much done, but just needs to be cleaned up and refined a bit. tongue.gif
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i personaly always use 120mm rads over 140mm because the the great fan choice... that said, there have been some great 140mm fans recently (i personaly love the 140mm PWM cougars)... cant wait to see where this goes smile.gif

IDK about the Cougars (I also snicker naughtily when I hear that word). I'll work on going with two 480 rads when I get a Merlin ST-10. I really want to try out those new Bio Noiseblockers.
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Hehe well after putting this many chips in, there is no stopping now. I'm trying to finish this soon because I want to make a seperate gaming pc with that i5 3570K with the Merlin ST-10 (if it will ever get released).
With the Aquaero, I will probably message Shoggy to see if its really necessary since I'm going to be routing all the fans through the Poweradjust Ultras. Since I think most of the heat will be routed through there, it should give the main unit some slack to be passively air cooled on the stock heat sink. And I REALLY am not looking forward to rerouting the tubing just to accomodate that little block. LOL!
I'm thinking I will make the Crystal Links the cherry on top of this project after I get all the custom wiring and sleeving done. I think they are going to make them into the same color options they have for their reservoirs (ie. ICE Red, ICE Black and ICE Blue) and it would look REALLY nice to match it all up.
I'll go with the Samsungs to keep the color scheme consistent, but the price is way too much to stomach atm. Since I'm going to RAID them, I have to read up if some of the SSD specs matter. If not, I will probably just get some SSD's from the previous generation that is less expensive.
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I somewhat totally agree with you, but the rads were all purchased before I even knew I was going to tone down the build into a GTX 690 (originally planned for 3 way SLI/Xfire) and before Kepler was even released or knew what it was capable of. Not to mention that I was under assumption that you could fit 560 rads anywhere in the STH-10 before I pulled the trigger on it. I was also going to get blocks for the motherboard and RAM when I found out it was pretty much useless and just for looks.
I'm not sure why they made it a couple inches shorter in the upper chamber. The dust isn't too much of a problem since I have all the fans blowing into the case. I would normally have intake on one side and exhaust on the other but the heat output is very weak given the size of the rads and that they are overkill. Most of the dust around the top area are getting sucked into the filters and there is some air blowing out the top. Tons of positive pressure.
If I could do this all again, I probably would tone down to a couple of 480 Monstas or try those Aquacomputer AMS 480's. Then again, I thought it would be really cool to have three 560's and it would be even more of a headache to sell these rads off. Perhaps I will tone down to just 2 of them and rewire everything with the PSU on top. I still have to resleeve a bunch of
Also I'm not exactly in the "early stages" of this build. I started posting this way back earlier in the year but other things kept getting in the way of properly finishing it. It is pretty much done, but just needs to be cleaned up and refined a bit. tongue.gif
IDK about the Cougars (I also snicker naughtily when I hear that word). I'll work on going with two 480 rads when I get a Merlin ST-10. I really want to try out those new Bio Noiseblockers.

Sorry actually I did not realize that you were almost done with the build, I saw your other posts and I think it's a bit too late. I'd love to know why Jim did what he did with the top of the case, there is certainly a reason for it. I was also curious when I saw the different sizes at the top and bottom compartments.
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Small update!

I got 3rd PowerAdjust II Ultra from FrozenCPU a couple of days ago.





And a little package from Germany literally 10 minutes ago!







Nils seems to have given me a couple red samples as well. Unfortunately it only 1 of the 2 package I'm expecting from MDPC. It was a pleasant surprise how fast in came in. Usually when I get random packages from my parents in Germany it takes almost 2 weeks. And this was usually via USPS Priority via the military bases. The other package has the heat shrinks, replacement screws, etc so the sleeving will still have to wait.

I'm afraid, however, that even if the next package from Nils comes in Monday that I might not have enough time to finish up the wire management and installation before next weekend. Got a trip to Vegas with my cousin next Friday. Her husband just finished his first year in the Navy and from the sounds of it needs some well deserved R&R. After that its all Holidays and family stuff. Probably going to put off progress once again til next year tongue.gif
    
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Just scored two 256GB Samsung 840 Pros @ $239.99 a piece on Amazon. wheee.gif



$30 off these babies helps with the tax bit. However, I missed snatching a Corsair AX1200i for $299.99. It's back up at $329.99 again..... mad.gif Perhaps I should just hold out for SeaSonic Platinum 1200's. redface.gif

Oh well. Going to turn off the rig this weekend to set up RAID 0 on the Samsungs and install the Aquero after sleeving the wires that came with it.
    
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Good stuff! I wish the two ssds I got for my build were 256gbs lol not 120. I would say get the seasonic, then again the corsair is pretty sweet. I wanna see some sleeving! thumb.gif
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Yeah I just got the rest of the heatshrinks and sleeves from MDPC today and gonna give it a shot this weekend with the Aquero wiring. Gotta read up on how everything hooks up properly first.

The only spare PSU I have to keep my rig up is an old Mushkin Joule 1200W that's about 3-4 years old now. I'm a little hesitant to use it at it since I haven't powered it up in years and it's not even 80% efficient. But then again I need something in my rig to keep me online while I sleeve my SeaSonic's wiring. I was relunctant to get the AX1200i because Seasonic wasn't the OEM, some other company called Flextronics thus the hold out for the Seasonic 1200W Plat.
    
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Here is a small update. The 840 Pro's came in Saturday morning. I'm glad we live in an apt where our front door area is closed off. The Fed Ex guy just left the package AGAIN at the front door w/o bothering to knock.




Ugly pic! Yeah I know. iPhone FTW


The Benchies!

Weekend was unproductive and most of my time was spent with my wife.

SAT: Played the "return game" with my wife and went shopping.
SUN: Played the "return game" again with my wife and went to Costco. Then watched season finales of Dexter and Homeland.
MON: Finally got to open and installed the SSD's.

Things missed doing because of that: Watch "The Hobbit" on opening night, work on sleeving and see Charmane Star at the Spearamint Rhino on the last night frown.gif

I spent most of my time on Monday trying to figure out how to get TRIM to work with the BIOS mods. But for some reason I couldn't do it. Tried reinstalling Windows several times and still failed to get drivers to work. (FYI there is still no TRIM support for RAID 0 on X79 boards). Goes to show how good I really am at this stuff. Ended up just using the official 3301 UEFI from ASUS and am just going to wait Intel release the official drivers to do this.

The next part is installing the Aquaero XT and PowerAdjust II's. I still have to sleeve, but I'm going to have to make another dumb order for fittings and wires. Turns out I will probably need to use the waterblock on the Aquaero as it gets really hot. Also going to officially stop using DVD Drive, although I wanted to upgrade it to Blu-Ray player, because as ridiculous as this may sound, I am running out of bay slots. The top and bottom part where I have my rads take up all 3 x 5'25" bays (not even enough room to put a fan there). And in moving the SSD's and HDD's to the... oh well I'll just put up pics later.

The Aquaero XT installation will probably conclude this build log. I have plans for a Caselabs ST-10 build soon... or upgrade my car speakers to something more appropriate. God knows I could've put Focal Utopia's with what I spent on this current rig alone.
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