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Recently I noticed after several system crashes that programs like Firefox would become unresponsive for no particular reason and would lock up for about 10 seconds before resuming. It seems to happen most frequently on Youtube as well as when I am opening/closing tabs. I currently have the adblock plugin installed along with a few Greasemonkey scripts specific to Youtube.

In Deus Ex: HR, the game frequently stutters for no particular reason during gameplay, though never during cutscenes. Basically when it stutters the frames lag for about 1/2 a second before running smoothly again. I haven't really noticed this happening in other games I play (Like CS:GO or TF2).

My system consists of 4GB of Samsung/Kingston DDR2 667MHz 5-5-5-15 (OC to 800MHz) (Samsung in one channel, Kingston in the other), Samsung F3 500GB HDD, Athlon II x4 @ stock 3.0 GHz, GIGABYTE 785G US2H motherboard, and a HIS HD7750 graphics card. The CPU idles at around 18C and maxes out around 28C (as reported by Coretemp).

Like I said the system has been running smoothly before these crashes and I'm thinking that they may be related to the ram going bad since I've had it overclocked for several months now. It could also be the powersupply since I am still using the stock 250 watt that came with the Acer system back in 2008. Still this is everything I have and I don't think I would really be overloading that power supply with this setup.
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Like I said the system has been running smoothly before these crashes and I'm thinking that they may be related to the ram going bad since I've had it overclocked for several months now. It could also be the powersupply since I am still using the stock 250 watt that came with the Acer system back in 2008. Still this is everything I have and I don't think I would really be overloading that power supply with this setup.

There is a good chance you have caused irreparable damage to the system. The absolute minimum in your system, without any form of overclocking, would be a 450W with that video card. Add in an OC on memory and it just makes the entire situation worse. The interesting thing about electronics is that when they don't get proper power, they will try and compensate for this lack by drawing a heavier current. While a good power supply would help prevent this from happening, through regulation, a cheap 250W certainly isn't going to do this.

Really there are two things that you can do right now...

1) Remove the video card and see if the issues stops, using just the on-board video.

2) Get a proper power supply in the system and see if the issue stops.

Even with doing one of the above there is no guarantee as to what damage could have been done, if any at all.
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Hmmm, you are certainly skating close to the edge with that PSU, however, your mixed ram is more concern to me.

I would suggest the following...

Go back to stock on the ram, if that doesnt work,

Pull 2 gb of one set (Either the Kingston or the Samsung) out and see if that makes a difference.

If no difference, swap the ram set around and try again.

If no difference, run MEMTest on each the 2Gb sets (over night if possible. a 4 hr run is useless for MEMtest)

If the ram checks out, look to getting a better 450w + PSU... Consider this anyway... 250w is way understrength with a HD7750 in the mix

GL
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There is a good chance you have caused irreparable damage to the system. The absolute minimum in your system, without any form of overclocking, would be a 450W with that video card. Add in an OC on memory and it just makes the entire situation worse. The interesting thing about electronics is that when they don't get proper power, they will try and compensate for this lack by drawing a heavier current. While a good power supply would help prevent this from happening, through regulation, a cheap 250W certainly isn't going to do this.
Really there are two things that you can do right now...
1) Remove the video card and see if the issues stops, using just the on-board video.
2) Get a proper power supply in the system and see if the issue stops.
Even with doing one of the above there is no guarantee as to what damage could have been done, if any at all.

If irreparable damage was already done then what kind of damage is it? Also what kind of power supply should I get? (Budget oriented of-course)

How's this for a power supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033
It's 80 PLUS Bronze and offers a 6-pin PCIe power connector. If I get this I expect it to keep up with new mid-range parts as I upgrade stuff.
Edited by IvantheDugtrio - 5/8/12 at 7:32pm
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post #5 of 39
Please do not skim on your power supply - its the life force of your system.

Have a look here and see what you actually need...

http://www.overclock.net/t/1140534/psu-calc-final-release

This was made by Phaedrus2129, a very well respected and sage member of OCN.
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I would say this is probably a power supply issue, The Antec you posted isnt a bad PSU, but you need more juice than that, I would look into a 550-600 watt Seasonic

Like for example: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151094
 
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Please do not skim on your power supply - its the life force of your system.

This is the best advice you could have ever been given... Its one of the things WORTH investing in, I bought a HX620 corsair3 years ago and its still running strong, and when it dies I will probably drop another $250 into a PSU
 
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go with this one over the one you posted http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371035
$50 after promo

or this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182131

or this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703036
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Please do not skim on your power supply - its the life force of your system.

This is the best advice you could have ever been given... Its one of the things WORTH investing in, I bought a HX620 corsair3 years ago and its still running strong, and when it dies I will probably drop another $250 into a PSU

While I agree the PSU is one of your most important components. $250 is major overkill for a PSU
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control alt del !make sure nothing is due!antivirus from ms (mse)will throttle everything if it is due and you have been ignoring it!same for update !9/10 when computer slow it is because something needs doing an you forgot to do it!and it is most often related to ms!
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How about this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171060
Cooler Master 450watt; also $45; 80 PLUS BRONZE
Mainly I just don't want to break the bank, nor do I want to destroy my computer with a broken power supply.
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