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post #1 of 19
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Hey everyone...

I'm starting a thread here for input/tips on the new water cooling system I spec'd out.

It's going to be a dual loop system - with 2 black ice SR1 360 radiators, 2 Danger Den D-RAD reservoirs, and 2 Danger Den CPX Pro water pumps, as well as all the tubing, fittings, clamps, etc.

I want silent fans, so I am looking at the Frozen CPU site for them.. Any suggestions there are appreciated.

Thanks!
post #2 of 19
Is there any particular reason that you are going with a dual loop? There is no real performance benefit and it does cost quite a bit more. If you are doing it for aesthetics then it's all good.

For fans, get 1850rpm gentle typhoons, attach em to a fan controller and enjoy the best fans that money can buy smile.gif They have the best noise/performance ratio and I can tell you that at low RPMs they are totally silent. When you want to game or do something more intense, just turn em up and you still won't be able to hear a thing.
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It's half for aesthetics, and half because I want to make 100% sure the cooling is effective... given that I've already bought all of the components, I guess now it's a moot point, but I really thought a dual loop would be wicked.
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The only thing a dual loop does in terms of performance is separate the components temperatures, but I have never actually seen someone do it for that reason (either they thought it would give them better performance overall or it was for looks). However, you won't get better temps unless you distribute the rads in an uneven way, sacrificing one component for the other, which IMO is pointless.

Since you already bought the stuff and you're going for looks anyway, seems like you're all set. As I said, gentle typhoons would probably serve you best.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=24749

On the more expensive side, but they are the top performers.
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Thank you very much for the fan suggestion smile.gif
post #6 of 19
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The only thing a dual loop does in terms of performance is separate the components temperatures, but I have never actually seen someone do it for that reason (either they thought it would give them better performance overall or it was for looks). However, you won't get better temps unless you distribute the rads in an uneven way, sacrificing one component for the other, which IMO is pointless.

Since you already bought the stuff and you're going for looks anyway, seems like you're all set. As I said, gentle typhoons would probably serve you best.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=24749

On the more expensive side, but they are the top performers.

Not technically true.

If you have your CPU running hot, how well do you think that water would cool your GPU right after? The OP has a really high ambient temp in their room. IMO this is a practical use for a waterchiller.
Edited by SniperTeamTango - 5/8/12 at 5:07pm
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Not technically true.
If you have your CPU running hot, how well do you think that water would cool your GPU right after? The OP has a really high ambient temp in their room. IMO this is a practical use for a waterchiller.


Single loop vs dual loop , doesnt make a difference with the proper fans, pumo, and radiators
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Not technically true.
If you have your CPU running hot, how well do you think that water would cool your GPU right after? The OP has a really high ambient temp in their room. IMO this is a practical use for a waterchiller.


Single loop vs dual loop , doesnt make a difference with the proper fans, pumo, and radiators

Physically that makes no sense, so explain how the water (when heated) would cool just as effectively as colder water.
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Physically that makes no sense, so explain how the water (when heated) would cool just as effectively as colder water.

Take 264w of heat to raise water 1c at 1gpm. You have any processors you know of that dish out 264w of heat?

If so, do you mind water entering your GPU 1c hotter?

Dual loop is:
1.) more hassle
2.) more maintenence
3.) more expensive
4.) not much better than a single loop


Now with that said. If you;'re using two 360's for a gpu and a cpu, keeping them in the same loop or apart will have no real benifit or gain. if you have a 360 and a 240, then havimng the cpu on the 240 and gpu on the 360 will net a small gain in temps. But again, not enough to justify the trouble.

There's also the fact that if the case is moderately small (ATX) then the clutter of tube will reduce airflow.


Not doing this to be mean, just pointing out some things... biggrin.gif
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Physically that makes no sense, so explain how the water (when heated) would cool just as effectively as colder water.

Rognin beat me to it.


264w of heat to raise water 1c at 1gpm.. meaning you will rise your gpu (s) at the 1c at the most.
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