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so op, is it worth some extra money to you to have the ability to overclock the CPU? there is a lot of headroom on these chips (4.5-5ghz are common) if you pay to get one off the chips with the "k" moniker and motherboards that support it.

if some of your programs are heavily threaded (aware of and take advantage of many cores) than the 6 core or 4 core with hyperthreading chips may be very adventageous to you.


I would now consider 8gb RAM as a minimum, and ddr3 1600 cl9 RAM is pretty standard. "faster" RAM won't make any noticeable performance difference but more could if you use software that takes advantage of it. or look into RAM disks...
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The MAJOR weak point in that system is the video card, the 550 Ti is very weak compared to the rest of it. Truthfully the change to this would be dropping the SSD and putting that money into a better card, as the rest of the hardware is essentially pointless with the 550 Ti choking them.

Yes, but he didn't say he was gaming, he said he was doing graphically demanding programs, which we all know don't utilize a video card as much as a game does. That is my only reasoning for that card in particular. But like I said, it is a really good starting point for a build and very flexible on swapping out parts.
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My kids do play video games, so I am looking for something they can play their games on that won't be obsolete in a couple of years. Could you suggest what a better video card might be?
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My kids do play video games, so I am looking for something they can play their games on that won't be obsolete in a couple of years. Could you suggest what a better video card might be?

well if you want to dump the ssd and jump on something like a 7950 or GTX 580, that would be great.

Either this card. I can give you my personal opinion and say this card is amazing, I have it and it is quiet and cool running.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125364

the other option would be this one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125414

Those would play any game on the market at decent to max settings. I can play metro 2033 on my sig rig with the GTX580.

What games your kids play really makes a huge difference in what video card would be good for you.
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My kids do play video games, so I am looking for something they can play their games on that won't be obsolete in a couple of years. Could you suggest what a better video card might be?

It just depends on if you want to stray from the original budget a little bit. If you want real longevity you can look at something like the upcoming (In about a week) NVidia GTX 670, though it is a little pricey compared to the other mentioned cards. Although pricing hasn't been confirmed it is said to be anywhere between $375 and $450 for the card, a very large portion of the budget you had set. Truthfully you aren't going to start getting into the decent cards until you break $200, at that point you can start getting cards that will game well and get you a couple of years, a great card for the money is the GTX 560 Ti 448 Core.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=-1&IsNodeId=1&Description=560%20Ti%20448&bop=And&Order=RATING&PageSize=20

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&N=-1&isNodeId=1&Description=7850&x=0&y=0 for the AMD side of things.

Cards in the above linked price range are typically good for the money and perform well.
    
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Thanks to everyone so far, this has been a huge help. I'm actually looking forward to giving this a go and assembling my own desktop lol. I'm a little confused about the games; what does it mean to play on high or max settings? Don't they either work or not work?
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Thanks to everyone so far, this has been a huge help. I'm actually looking forward to giving this a go and assembling my own desktop lol. I'm a little confused about the games; what does it mean to play on high or max settings? Don't they either work or not work?

It is referring to the graphical settings inside the game, the higher the settings, the more powerful of a computer it takes.

Here is a good example. My desktop can play metro 2033 at max settings with my GTX 580. Before when I had my radeon HD 5770, I could barely play metro at all, this is because the 580 is much more powerful then the 5770.

What games do you kids play? if they are kid games like the tonka games, then it doesn't take much of a computer at all to play them, if they are playing like sims 3 it takes a somewhat decent video card.
I figured any games you would be playing would be pretty mild, so I picked the 550 Ti since it would play most games at ok settings.
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Thanks to everyone so far, this has been a huge help. I'm actually looking forward to giving this a go and assembling my own desktop lol. I'm a little confused about the games; what does it mean to play on high or max settings? Don't they either work or not work?

The settings have to do with the fidelity of the game itself. The higher the setting the better it looks, but the harder it is for a system to run, thus increasing your hardware needs. This mainly applies to your mainstream games that the average teen and older plays. If they are younger kids going to cartoonnetwork.com and playing Ben 10 that requires very little.
    
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Just wanted to say thanks to everyone for their input; i've been swamped with work and haven't been around for a few days. My plan is to start purchasing the recommended parts in about 3 weeks, so I'm happy to hear other suggestions or ideas about what to get in the meantime. To answer a previous question, I'm not sure what my kids play, but I think they're relatively new games.
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Just wanted to say thanks to everyone for their input; i've been swamped with work and haven't been around for a few days. My plan is to start purchasing the recommended parts in about 3 weeks, so I'm happy to hear other suggestions or ideas about what to get in the meantime. To answer a previous qu
estion, I'm not sure what my kids play, but I think they're relatively new games.

Hi guys, just an update; I got too busy with work to move ahead on the system, but I'm ready now. Anyone have anything else to suggest before i start buying the parts? Thanks in advance!
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