Originally Posted by xeekei
AMD's open source driver is actually much better than the NVidia counterpart, but it's a different story for the proprietary ones.
I don't care if the drivers are open or not either, so I prefer NVidia's model. Don't help out at all with the open source drivers, but make decent working closed source ones. AMD should pick up the pace.
I agree, though I still wish Nvidia helped the community more they have made the best choice they can without doing so. Neither model is better IMO, but I expect a fully working driver regardless and Nvidia just delivers. I just see too many AMD fanboys (and I actually want an AMD card) saying it's all crap and Nvidia is just a terrible company that won't source it's drivers like the nice community driven AMD. I look at those people and think "Are you serious? At least my 3D works, and that's all the consumer cares about". AKA I just want working drivers! lol I'm very glad you didn't go that route, cause I think it's asinine.
Originally Posted by MotO
Was too "clunky" for me and didn't flow very good IMO. Trying to find a program that I installed and then wanted to uninstall was not nearly as simple as the 2 clicks it takes in windows. I even googled "how to uninstall a program in ubuntu" and that didn't get me much further. I couldn't even figure out how to get the retarded side bar thing so move down to the bottom of the desktop(if that's even possible). It seems like doing things in linux through the terminal is the most efficient way but I don't have time to learn all the commands when I'd much rather use a GUI. I couldn't stand the close and max/min buttons being on the left side after using windows for so long and couldn't find a way to change it. I'll probably try another flavor eventually but I don't think linux is for me.
The sidebar doesn't "move" without an extension. The entire Unity desktop (and gnome-shell) are built off Web 2.0, so you can write extensions with just knowing web programming. I know, you may not be one but that doesn't mean the rest of us can't write extensions and then share them. But if you really don't like that interface...
If that doesn't scream "windows clone" I don't know what the hell does. In fact, they did the whole transparency before windows! You just didn't try, and your ignorance shows.
Originally Posted by Orici
Linux wont get mainsteam since it doesn't (and cant get) have DirectX
The PS3 doesn't have directX, same with the Wii from Nintendo. OSX doesn't have DirectX support, so how did it get mainstream? That's just dumb.
Originally Posted by jrbroad77
So what is Canonical's point? Try to get people to genuinely hate Linux by throwing Ubuntu on their system? Linux Mint is an infinitely better option, but Linux Mint isn't a corporation.
Mint isn't a better option, honestly without Ubuntu (and/or Debian) you wouldn't have Mint. Ubuntu also has a much bigger crew than Mint, they have the ability to do more work with the OEMs as well as (I assume) the dev support.
Originally Posted by jrbroad77
@Rookie, don't take what I said the wrong way. I'm not some Linux elitist. From a usability standpoint, Arch is much worse than Linux Mint, this is generally accepted as fact. Most people just want an OS that works, maybe something that's a bit customizable. Ubuntu is probably good enough for most people, but mostly it's popular because it's popular. I don't see any aspects of it that are better than Linux Mint, surely not the GUI.
Last I checked, Ubuntu hasn't been winning any popularity contest since they switched to Unity..
The page hits per day used to be about 4500+ for Ubuntu, maybe 2500-3000 for Mint prior to Ubuntu using Unity, since pretty much forever. http://distrowatch.com/
But yeah, Ubuntu is more popular in an education environment and so on, their end-game is $$$$, whereas Linux Mint is primarily focused on giving it's user base what they want. And not to nitpick, but Ubuntu isn't the only user-friendly OS, if you're not capable of figuring out (Linux Mint, Meego, Jolicloud OS, Google Chrome OS, etc... how are you capable of using Windows?
Ubuntu doesn't do some of the things Mint does. Mint treads on some copyright boundaries that some might find a little much. Nobody is going to sue them but I'm sure if somebody starts selling systems with Mint installed, somebody is getting sued. Unless Mint changes some of the packages it gets released with, that won't ever change. Ubuntu is a fine system, even better because it has so many "unofficial" spin offs that are basically Ubuntu with different DEs.