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Hey guys, I got an i7-2600K and an ASRock Z77 Extreme6 a few days ago and I've had a fairly big problem with it. When the CPU goes under load (P95-64/IntelBurnTest) the multiplier drops to 34x instead of whatever the overclock is at. I've tried changing pretty much everything but nothing seems to help. I tried several BIOS revisions, including 1.1,1.5,1.7, and 1.8. They all produce the same result. My settings are: Speedstep off, All C states off, I even tried setting thermal throttling or whatever in the CPU options to off. I tried changing between "All cores" multiplier to "per core" multiplier with Turbo disabled, no change. Changing between manual and offset CPU voltage doesn't help. Even when under low voltage of 1.35 + 0.004 for turbo, and the temperatures @ 68C max, it still drops the multiplier down to 34x. Changing to different load line calibrations didn't seem to affect it. Now I've even tried running ThrottleStop, but it doesn't seem to change anything either, and it also shows EIST with a checkmark, even though I disabled SpeedStep through UEFI. If I remember correctly, it doesn't seem to throttle down when running multiplier at 42x, but at 46-48x, it always goes back down to 34x. Does anyone else have this problem or know what's up?
Rest of specs: Corsair Vengeance LP 4x4GB @ 1600MHz, Gigabyte GTX 670, OCZ GameXStream 700W PSU, Kingston HyperX 3K 240GB.
CPU is using a Corsair H80 cooler in Fractal R3 case.

Are you running any temperature/voltage monitoring software like RealTemp?
   
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I tried both RealTemp and the AXTU bundled software.
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I tried both RealTemp and the AXTU bundled software.

Try running your tests without either of those programs running in the background at all. Just use HWMonitor and CPU-Z.

Just making a guess based on this thread:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1281917/2500k-wont-oc/20#post_17707602

Some software can throttle your CPU / disable turbo boost if you don't check all the settings and parameter files correctly.
   
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Even using just CPU-Z yields the same result. it seems to happen more often the higher the Vcore is, and maybe isn't dependent on the actual multiplier number like I thought. Also, I tried putting all the maximum allowed wattages in the UEFI @ max (500), but it made no difference from auto. It seems like very odd throttling, because it's doing it when the the hottest core is at a mere 75C (Still does it at lower temps as well).
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Reading back through this thread, it seems the user Salata has an identical problem to mine http://www.overclock.net/t/1254599/official-asrock-z77-discussion-owners-club/180#post_17228823, though his board is the ASRock Extreme4-M. Also, I doubt it's any software that is causing this. I checked the RealTemp settings and it appears EIST enables itself upon Windows boot, and I can turn this off, but it doesn't seem to make a difference. The problem seems like TurboBoost just disables when under load, and setting multiplier "Per core" and disabling TurboBoost in UEFI does not solve it. I am 99% sure this is a problem that is fixable in a BIOS update, and I've submitted a report to ASRock. Hopefully they reply soon, otherwise I'll just be tempted to return the board and get a Gigabyte one instead.
Edited by skpstmgs - 7/16/12 at 7:46pm
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Reading back through this thread, it seems the user Salata has an identical problem to mine http://www.overclock.net/t/1254599/official-asrock-z77-discussion-owners-club/180#post_17228823, though his board is the ASRock Extreme4-M. Also, I doubt it's any software that is causing this. I checked the RealTemp settings and it appears EIST enables itself upon Windows boot, and I can turn this off, but it doesn't seem to make a difference. The problem seems like TurboBoost just disables when under load, and setting multiplier "Per core" and disabling TurboBoost in UEFI does not solve it. I am 99% sure this is a problem that is fixable in a BIOS update, and I've submitted a report to ASRock. Hopefully they reply soon, otherwise I'll just be tempted to return the board and get a Gigabyte one instead.

Have you looked at the thread I linked above concerning RealTemp?
"look at the config ini file and check if disableturbo=1 (I'm not at my computer so I can't check what the line actually says). If it is 1, change it to 0 and turbo should work longside realtemp."
   
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disableturbo is set at 0 but still same result.
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And just to make 100% certain that it's not software, have you tried to disable all the extra stuff you may have installed that starts when Windows loads, including RealTemp and JUST run HWMonitor/CPU-Z? I'm not really asking the same thing again to annoy you - just making sure you did that earlier, because your post above indicates that you believe RealTemp is not an issue, so I wasn't sure you truly stopped everything from running at startup or just checked the settings.
   
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I did some tests that should confirm this isn't software-related. I tried booting into safe mode and was going to measure the speeds, but no hardware monitors seemed to work, so what I did was run IntelBurnTest @ Very high (4GB of memory) and look at the GFlops for each run. So my overclock is set at 44x multiplier, and under both normal windows boot and safe mode, the first run clocked in at ~100GFlops, but the second and third run under both normal and safe mode boot clocked at ~84GFlops, because at that point the multiplier would have already fallen to 34x. I think that's proof enough that no external software is causing the drop. Any ideas?
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haha yeah, delidding decreased temps by 15C and the tim that was inside mine was all dried up so no wonder many people are getting bad temperatures frown.gif its a shame you lose warranty and intel protection plan...

Your temps really decreased by 15c just by changing the paste? I'm doing it if that's the case
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