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post #1531 of 3170
Does anyone knows which heatsink/fan from the link below would stabilize the temps on the SouthBridge? Also that is compatible with this MB (Extreme4). Mine is getting around 45 °C on idle / 65-70°C on full, while the CPU is always 32-35 °C on idle.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100006648&IsNodeId=1&Description=chipset&bop=And&Order=RATING&PageSize=20
post #1532 of 3170
Just installed my new ASRock Z77 mITX motherboard into my new build last night. Feels about the same as my ASRock Extreme 4 (which I really liked) - fast boot time and all.

I am trying to identify a noise issue, however. I'm using one of those closed-loop liquid coolers (Intel Thermal Solution), and there's a pretty strong electrical buzz coming from around that area. Now, it's so close to the back panel of the motherboard, as on a mITX everything's so close together, so I can't quite figure out if it's my motherboard making the sound or the cooler. Are these liquid-loop coolers known to make a buzzy sound in some cases? (not the fans! the actual "medallion" part that goes over the CPU - maybe some pump in it) Or is it possibly my motherboard?

I have a Gigabyte z68 motherboard with another build that has some buzz/coil whine, but it sounds different and changes pitch depending on CPU load frequency. That one's apparently more common when changing C-states.

In this case with my new mITX set up, the buzz is pretty consistent - like high-voltage wires. Doesnt' really seem to change based on load. I was thinking maybe also has something to do with the wireless part of the motherboard that I have not touched (or plugged in the back antenna, since I don't need it). I'm using a temp old PSU (Corsair 400-Watt, which is fine), and my PSU of choice should arrive today (Silverstone 450W SFX 80+ Gold), so maybe it's a PSU-related coil-whine type thing... Just doesn't seem like it based on the noise staying just about the same from the time I turn on to the time I turn off.

Any ideas? It's very annoying...
   
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Any ideas? It's very annoying...
I have the same motherboard and also used to have an Extreme 4, with a CoolIT 240 closed loop watercooling system. When i moved to the ITX i found i have a very annoying sound, but if i turned the case so the motherboard was vertical the sound would go away. My conclusion was that the cooler was either designed for vertical installations or that it was just happier is such a manor. Either way in the end i moved to a regualr heatsink and quiet, happy times.
post #1534 of 3170
That's very interesting. Just tested this but flipping my case on its side, and it's still making the buzzy electrical sound =/ I suppose I could briefly boot with the pump power turned off before my chip has a chance to overheat, just to see if that's what making the sound vs. the motherboard.
   
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That's very interesting. Just tested this but flipping my case on its side, and it's still making the buzzy electrical sound =/ I suppose I could briefly boot with the pump power turned off before my chip has a chance to overheat, just to see if that's what making the sound vs. the motherboard.

Yea i tried running with the pump off several times, for minutes at a time, the temperature never became too worrying, though obviously not advisable. Just turn it on like normal, enter the bios, go to the temperature screen, then unplug the pump and see while watching the temperatures of coure.
post #1536 of 3170
Yup, it's the pump =/ Just unplugged it while sitting in BIOS, and my computer's noise dropped by a whole lot of decibels. The buzzing disappeared. Now I'll have to do some research on whether my Intel Thermal Solution is defective or whether it's just the horizontal position (but it did make the sound when I flipped it to be vertical too, so likely not).

P.S.: getting a replacement tomorrow - hopefully it's just my particular unit, because most of the reviews I've seen talk about just how quiet it is vs. other closed loop coolers, and mine is anything but quiet.
Edited by ElevenEleven - 8/23/12 at 8:43am
   
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Same problem - I got a garbled and weirdly written email from Asrock that linked to their Memory-support list on the Z77E-ITX. So yes, its prob. about the BIOS - I since then had a pair of G.Skill TridentX in the rig, those ran 2400 Mhz (XMP) without any problems, just plug and play - Ordered the 2666 Mhz version for myself, these are on the support-list aswell.
The Samsung will spend the rest of their life in my HTPC.

Ahh oh well, I guessed this when my second z77e-itx build did the same thing.

Also lucky you! Asrock's support email just told me to ask the seller, cheeky gits. blinksmiley.gif

Do you think it's worth selling and buying a better kit for my HD 4000, considering that I already have 8-9-9-27 1866?

EDIT:

Just found something very interesting.

When I set my Ram to 2000 in the bios, memtest flags this as 1333/2666, the higher settings do not post, and the lower settings (1866 etc) all show correctly in memtest.

Set to 1866


Set to 2000

I don't see anything wrong here. Remember DDR stands for dual data rate. Because of this you take the actual frequency and multiply it by two. So basically 933 is 1866 and 1333 is 2666. It should show up the same in cpuz.
Also, you guys need to understand that higher frequency does NOT equal more speed. It's a trade off. Higher frequency with higher (looser timings) can actually be slower than a lower frequency with tighter timings. For example 1866MHz with 9-9-9-24 timings will be slower than 1600MHz with 7-7-7-21 timings because even though there's less bandwidth, the clock cycles are more frequent.
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I don't see anything wrong here. Remember DDR stands for dual data rate. Because of this you take the actual frequency and multiply it by two. So basically 933 is 1866 and 1333 is 2666. It should show up the same in cpuz.
Also, you guys need to understand that higher frequency does NOT equal more speed. It's a trade off. Higher frequency with higher (looser timings) can actually be slower than a lower frequency with tighter timings. For example 1866MHz with 9-9-9-24 timings will be slower than 1600MHz with 7-7-7-21 timings because even though there's less bandwidth, the clock cycles are more frequent.

My problem, and Beans if I understood it right, is if we set the speed at anything at/under 1866 is shows up correctly in Memtest (933 and so forth) - But any setting above and it becomes weird - In my case and Beans, if we put the memory at speed 2000 (And above) the ram speed comes up wrong - You can even see it in the screenshots he posted.

It shows ram speed at 1333 (Or DDR3-2333) even though he (And I) went for a 2000 setting in the BIOS.
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Can the ASRock logo / banner be disabled on BIOS load somewhere for the mini ITX board? I was able to do it with no issues on my ASRock Extreme 4, but cannot find the option for it in my new mITX board BIOS. Either the option got moved, or it's not there, or I'm blind...
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Can the ASRock logo / banner be disabled on BIOS load somewhere for the mini ITX board? I was able to do it with no issues on my ASRock Extreme 4, but cannot find the option for it in my new mITX board BIOS. Either the option got moved, or it's not there, or I'm blind...

Z77E-ITX Manual page 58:

In BIOS

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Use this item to enable or disable OEM Logo. The default value is
[Enabled]
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