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Hello everyone! Future ASRock Z77 Extreme4 owner (on Monday when ups delivers). I was able to get this board on newegg when they had it on sale last week for $104. All my previous builds had been AMD and well I'm finally making the switch over to Intel. I was able to grab an i5 3570K at CompUSA during their black friday in store specials for $150! I can't wait to start upgrading my current set up. I have some questions regarding raid since I've never messed with that before so maybe you guys can help me out later on when I get to that stage (I'll be doing 2 Kingston HyperX 120 ssds in Raid0). I've downloaded the manual and guides for raid on their website and I know I'll have to set up raid in the bios but do I have to do anything else during the windows 7 installation? Thanks! biggrin.gif
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Hey aar0nsky / Hey Asrock owners smile.gif
I have a small issue with my drives (1 SSD & 1 HDD) connected to the native SATA III ports, both are showing up in the 'Safely remove Hardware' icon and the HDD keeps making that poping/clicking sound (turning off & on) ....any way to solve/remove them from this state? Bios settings are set as supposed to. mobo is Extreme4 (2nd sig rig)
Thanks again..

The safely remove hardware part I would assume is because you are using AHCI mode in the bios for your hard disks(and solid state disks). This makes them hotswappable although I do not recommend hot swapping your os drive doh.gif

As far as the popping/clicking that usually happens when the drive is old in age or is getting ready to die. It is usually a crap shoot in my experience with hard drives. I believe you have to run AHCI with your ssd although it may vary depending on manufacturer.
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Hello everyone! Future ASRock Z77 Extreme4 owner (on Monday when ups delivers). I was able to get this board on newegg when they had it on sale last week for $104. All my previous builds had been AMD and well I'm finally making the switch over to Intel. I was able to grab an i5 3570K at CompUSA during their black friday in store specials for $150! I can't wait to start upgrading my current set up. I have some questions regarding raid since I've never messed with that before so maybe you guys can help me out later on when I get to that stage (I'll be doing 2 Kingston HyperX 120 ssds in Raid0). I've downloaded the manual and guides for raid on their website and I know I'll have to set up raid in the bios but do I have to do anything else during the windows 7 installation? Thanks! biggrin.gif

Raid 0 with two ssd's seems pretty useless in my opinion. You will never utilize the speed that it potentially could produce for anything and it really just doesnt make sense since you should already be around 500mb/s with the SSD's. No need for raid with those drives. Also RAID 1 would be pointless as well since you are pretty much deteriorating two drives and only being able to use one(theoretically speaking).
I would just pop both of those bad boys in and be content with it. No need to complicate things with raid that has a minimal benefit with an ssd.
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PS - (Raid 0 provides no redundancy and one drive failure causes the whole array to be trash and potential for catastrophic data loss is double that of isolated drives without RAID)
This is not to say you shouldnt do it, I am just voicing my opinion on the subject. If you have the money to waste, go for it.
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Raid 0 with two ssd's seems pretty useless in my opinion. You will never utilize the speed that it potentially could produce for anything and it really just doesnt make sense since you should already be around 500mb/s with the SSD's. No need for raid with those drives. Also RAID 1 would be pointless as well since you are pretty much deteriorating two drives and only being able to use one(theoretically speaking).
I would just pop both of those bad boys in and be content with it. No need to complicate things with raid that has a minimal benefit with an ssd.
This is not to say you shouldnt do it, I am just voicing my opinion on the subject. If you have the money to waste, go for it.

Thanks for your input! I mainly wanted to do raid to increase the size of my primary OS drive. I currently have a 120gb ssd (OS drive) and it's almost full (12gb left). I will only use raid for OS, basic programs and games (I have everything else on a hard drive). But you're right if one goes, I'll have to install everything again. I'm still debating on doing raid. I could use one 120gb for OS and the other one for only games. Too late on wasting the money...but then again I couldn't pass up a good deal on a Kingston HyperX 120gb for $60 and another one that I got a while back with a $35 rebate.
Edited by Airrick10 - 11/25/12 at 12:39am
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The safely remove hardware part I would assume is because you are using AHCI mode in the bios for your hard disks(and solid state disks). This makes them hotswappable although I do not recommend hot swapping your os drive doh.gif
As far as the popping/clicking that usually happens when the drive is old in age or is getting ready to die. It is usually a crap shoot in my experience with hard drives. I believe you have to run AHCI with your ssd although it may vary depending on manufacturer.

Thank you for the input, +rep.

I have AHCI enabled on both rigs but the Extreme4 is the only one showing my Harddrives in the 'Safely remove Hardware'. I don't want them to show up there. Is it a power saving feature in the Bios or do I have fiddle with windows to get them removed?

Thx again mate
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Instead of doing raid, you could just partition it as JBOD or something similar. Or if you follow "seans windows 7 ssd guide" you can put your user folders and other program files that dont need to be on the ssd, on a different drive. That is the way mine is setup. I have my ssd setup for my OS and my games and then all other programs and other games i do not play as often are on my hard disk drive.

Exxon - I am not sure since mine are not showing up like that anymore. I do not know if I did anything to change that but I will get back to you. One thing that comes to mind is in the bios, under the storage devices, make sure your ssd is set to solid state driver and not hard disk driver. It is a setting and one some versions of the bios does not get set correctly which causes the speed to be lower and boot speed to be slower. (not sure if it causes anything else) I cannot tell you how exactly to navigate to this setting but I can tell you that it is in there. It gives you the option to specify if the drive is a solid state or a hard disk.
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Thx , will check it out & report back
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Instead of doing raid, you could just partition it as JBOD or something similar. Or if you follow "seans windows 7 ssd guide" you can put your user folders and other program files that dont need to be on the ssd, on a different drive. That is the way mine is setup. I have my ssd setup for my OS and my games and then all other programs and other i do not play as often are on my hard disk drive.

Yes I already have everything else on a hard drive...I'll look into jbod. Sean's SSD guide is great! I had run into it earlier this year and came in handy moving steam games back and forth from hard drive to SSD. Thanks!
Edited by Airrick10 - 11/25/12 at 1:55pm
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No problem. I just got windows 8 and I am going to see what kind of damage I can do with it. Also my video card just crapped out so boohoo.
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No problem. I just got windows 8 and I am going to see what kind of damage I can do with it. Also my video card just crapped out so boohoo.

Maybe it's time for a 660Ti lol
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