Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Technology and Science News › [Telegraph] Google's robot cars pass driving test
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

[Telegraph] Google's robot cars pass driving test - Page 4

post #31 of 80
Quote:
Originally Posted by guyladouche View Post

I know it's getting ahead of the situation, but I'm interested to know how this system reacts to a highway-speed tire blowout, or a situation where it gets clipped by another vehicle at freeway speeds or almost collides with another car on the road (i.e., does it know you can just swerve onto the shoulder to avoid an accident as opposed to slamming on the brakes). Like, how does well does it maintain or regain control of a car in emergency situations.

I doubt it has been allowed on public roads without some in depth development in recovery in emergency situations. Sadly, I also think that what ever protocols that have put in place for these kind, the google car could perform better than 90% of the drivers on the road these days. Majority of drivers can't handle simple driving within an 8ft lane, let another performing emergency maneuvers.
Title System
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X4 965 Gigabyte GA-MA785GMT-UD2H Sapphire HD 6850 1GB DDR3 Crucial Ballistix Tracers 4GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Kingston SSD 64GB BENQ DVD-RW Custom W/C Kit Windows 7 Professional x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
24" LG LED Logitech Wave Corsair 700W Modular Coolmaster Half-X 
MouseAudio
Logitech MX Revolution 5.1 Surround / Studio Recording Headphones 
  hide details  
Reply
Title System
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X4 965 Gigabyte GA-MA785GMT-UD2H Sapphire HD 6850 1GB DDR3 Crucial Ballistix Tracers 4GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Kingston SSD 64GB BENQ DVD-RW Custom W/C Kit Windows 7 Professional x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
24" LG LED Logitech Wave Corsair 700W Modular Coolmaster Half-X 
MouseAudio
Logitech MX Revolution 5.1 Surround / Studio Recording Headphones 
  hide details  
Reply
post #32 of 80
I'll be impressed by autonomous cars when I have one in my garage that can open and close the garage door, enter and exit my garage without issue, navigate my odd country driveway, turn left onto a busy highway with no space in the center to pause at, navigate through traffic to my destination (this is probably the only part that actually works right now), arrive at myriad destinations and park somewhere semirandom without issue, and do so every day without fail, dealing with summer and winter driving.

Oh and deal with random stuff like pulling into the closest (or least busy nearby) gas station and pulling up to the proper pump. Going through a car wash that is laid out completely different then all other car washes it may have encountered. Going to a oil change garage for maintenance. Pulling over in random locations for the driver to take a leak, or photograph some bears, or pick up a hitch hiker (without running him over). Drive on windy mountain roads and pull into obscure and unmapped campgrounds. etc etc

So far I'm not particularly impressed.

The legal issues are interesting. I would imagine google's insurance rates for these computer cars are enormous, but with time and perfection they should go down to below what we pay as human drivers since ideally an autonomous car should never ever make mistakes. Autonomous cars done right would end accidents. If it has an error that causes a crash then the system isn't ready for consumer use yet, but if something did break down in the programming causing an error and a crash then I would imagine the manufacturer would be at fault the same way they would be if a car had a sticky gas pedal that caused it to go out of control.

And for the accidents that occur with autonomous cars, the kind that people almost never have since it's almost always driver error that causes car "accidents" it would still be up to the operator of the car to deal with.
post #33 of 80
Quote:
Originally Posted by tahayassen View Post

If the Google car crashes, the person in the driver's seat is held responsible. If anything goes wrong, the driver can take control immediately by turning the wheel, or pressing the brakes/gas. The driver is also expected to monitor the car driving at all times.

You assume there is someone in the drivers seat, or a responsible driver. This is a bad assumption. If the car is a taxi like in (bad movie not to be named). But the owner of record would naturally be responsible, same as a photo radar ticket. It will also have a black box that can be used to tell exactly what and why happened.

People have touched on this, but reaction time is a key accident avoiding issue. These cars will have intense accident avoiding and emergency protocols and procedures in place before they are public. They may not be as creative in problem solving as us but they wont need to be. They can actually foresee what wee will do and tell each other exactly what they are doing.

If it works, we will be able to raise the speed of traffic overall by a considerable amount. Think of driving as being like 3d chess. When is the last time a computer lost at chess? Driving can be predictable like chess and not like it is now, a dangerous version of Calvinball.

SpankyMcFlych, your Xmas list of demands on a car is like asking your cruse control to read your mind to know what speed you want. It would be good if they can, but that is not the purpose of these cars. They are not a new species of beings that need to take care of themselves. If they need gas, oil change or maintenance they will be able to go to a depot to have it done. It wont need to go in your messy garage, it will drop you off and go get someone around the block. Look to what it can do don't focus on what it can't.
Edited by KipH - 5/8/12 at 8:43pm
 
Folding for coinz
(14 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3930K EVGA Z79 Dark Asus HD7850 samsung 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Team XS3 SSD Got one Noctua u140 Have one too. Win7 for now 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer p234w Mechanical Today its a Fractal Fractal Arc XL 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
1 or 2 of them Cherry Some speekers Logitech 800 bluetooth/RF headset 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
xeon 1230 v3 Asrock Z87e itx powercolor r9 290 Changes like socks 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
m500 ssd no! ah, soon Vista Home Prem 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
no keycool LED Rosewill 500w passive Bitpenix phenom 
MouseMouse Pad
no tesoro 
  hide details  
Reply
 
Folding for coinz
(14 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3930K EVGA Z79 Dark Asus HD7850 samsung 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Team XS3 SSD Got one Noctua u140 Have one too. Win7 for now 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer p234w Mechanical Today its a Fractal Fractal Arc XL 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
1 or 2 of them Cherry Some speekers Logitech 800 bluetooth/RF headset 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
xeon 1230 v3 Asrock Z87e itx powercolor r9 290 Changes like socks 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
m500 ssd no! ah, soon Vista Home Prem 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
no keycool LED Rosewill 500w passive Bitpenix phenom 
MouseMouse Pad
no tesoro 
  hide details  
Reply
post #34 of 80
Cars can navigate country roads, this has been proven in the past (I saw one such contest where it was off-road driving, there was a dirt trail and GPS to tell the car the general direction to go).

With radar and the ability to precisely calculate times when cars would approach, as well as being able to calculate how fast your car can accelerate, I really have no doubt that computers will be better than humans at merging into traffic.

Additionally, cars of the future will probably be able to "talk" to each other. This network of talking will be able to optimize speed and reduce accidents.
Millenium Falcon
(24 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 4930k MSI Big Bang Xpower II EVGA GTX 690 Patriot Viper II Sector 7 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
OCZ Deneva 2 Corsair Force 3 Maxtor Western Digital Green 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Samsung BD/DVD-RW Swiftech MCP655 x2 Black Ice GTX 480 Black Ice GTX 280 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Alphacool Repack Dual D5 Watercool Heatkiller 3.0 Alphacool GTX 690 fullcover Bitspower Big Bang Xpower II fullcover 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 8.1 64-bit Professional 3x Dell S2340 Max Keyboard Durandal CoolerMaster V1000 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Azza Genesis 9000B Logitech G700 Roccat Alumic Onkyo HT-S9100THX 
  hide details  
Reply
Millenium Falcon
(24 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 4930k MSI Big Bang Xpower II EVGA GTX 690 Patriot Viper II Sector 7 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
OCZ Deneva 2 Corsair Force 3 Maxtor Western Digital Green 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Samsung BD/DVD-RW Swiftech MCP655 x2 Black Ice GTX 480 Black Ice GTX 280 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Alphacool Repack Dual D5 Watercool Heatkiller 3.0 Alphacool GTX 690 fullcover Bitspower Big Bang Xpower II fullcover 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 8.1 64-bit Professional 3x Dell S2340 Max Keyboard Durandal CoolerMaster V1000 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Azza Genesis 9000B Logitech G700 Roccat Alumic Onkyo HT-S9100THX 
  hide details  
Reply
post #35 of 80
Personal chauffeur...I will be in the backseat with the girlfriend of course smile.gif
Piquant PC
(15 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q8200 @ 3.15 with 1.318 VCore Gigabyte GA-EP45T-UD3L XFX Radeon HD5770 4GB A-Data 1600Mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
1TB Seagate Barracuda Samsung x24 optical drive Windows Se7en Home Asus 24" 1920x1080 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
G110 Eagle 600W PSU CoolerMaster Scout G500 
Mouse Pad
Steelseries 10" Mousepad 
  hide details  
Reply
Piquant PC
(15 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q8200 @ 3.15 with 1.318 VCore Gigabyte GA-EP45T-UD3L XFX Radeon HD5770 4GB A-Data 1600Mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
1TB Seagate Barracuda Samsung x24 optical drive Windows Se7en Home Asus 24" 1920x1080 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
G110 Eagle 600W PSU CoolerMaster Scout G500 
Mouse Pad
Steelseries 10" Mousepad 
  hide details  
Reply
post #36 of 80
Quote:
Originally Posted by guyladouche View Post

I know it's getting ahead of the situation, but I'm interested to know how this system reacts to a highway-speed tire blowout, or a situation where it gets clipped by another vehicle at freeway speeds or almost collides with another car on the road (i.e., does it know you can just swerve onto the shoulder to avoid an accident as opposed to slamming on the brakes). Like, how does well does it maintain or regain control of a car in emergency situations.

Can't be any worse than 99% of the drivers in Cali.
post #37 of 80
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kip69 View Post

You assume there is someone in the drivers seat, or a responsible driver. This is a bad assumption. If the car is a taxi like in (bad movie not to be named). But the owner of record would naturally be responsible, same as a photo radar ticket. It will also have a black box that can be used to tell exactly what and why happened.
People have touched on this, but reaction time is a key accident avoiding issue. These cars will have intense accident avoiding and emergency protocols and procedures in place before they are public. They may not be as creative in problem solving as us but they wont need to be. They can actually foresee what wee will do and tell each other exactly what they are doing.
If it works, we will be able to raise the speed of traffic overall by a considerable amount. Think of driving as being like 3d chess. When is the last time a computer lost at chess? Driving can be predictable like chess and not like it is now, a dangerous version of Calvinball.
SpankyMcFlych, your Xmas list of demands on a car is like asking your cruse control to read your mind to know what speed you want. It would be good if they can, but that is not the purpose of these cars. They are not a new species of beings that need to take care of themselves. If they need gas, oil change or maintenance they will be able to go to a depot to have it done. It wont need to go in your messy garage, it will drop you off and go get someone around the block. Look to what it can do don't focus on what it can't.

Off topic but Taxi Driver had many deep, and emotional implications that suddenly tied the lives of two New York citizens causing the insurmountable climax at the end.

Well, all of that and Jodie Foster was darn cute as a 14 year old girl when I was 16 first time watching it tongue.gif
Piquant PC
(15 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q8200 @ 3.15 with 1.318 VCore Gigabyte GA-EP45T-UD3L XFX Radeon HD5770 4GB A-Data 1600Mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
1TB Seagate Barracuda Samsung x24 optical drive Windows Se7en Home Asus 24" 1920x1080 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
G110 Eagle 600W PSU CoolerMaster Scout G500 
Mouse Pad
Steelseries 10" Mousepad 
  hide details  
Reply
Piquant PC
(15 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q8200 @ 3.15 with 1.318 VCore Gigabyte GA-EP45T-UD3L XFX Radeon HD5770 4GB A-Data 1600Mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
1TB Seagate Barracuda Samsung x24 optical drive Windows Se7en Home Asus 24" 1920x1080 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
G110 Eagle 600W PSU CoolerMaster Scout G500 
Mouse Pad
Steelseries 10" Mousepad 
  hide details  
Reply
post #38 of 80
Quote:
Originally Posted by Digitronical View Post

DWI's will soon cease to exist smile.gif

Party On!!
The 3930
(26 items)
 
Junior's 3930
(22 items)
 
DATA/HTPC
(20 items)
 
  hide details  
Reply
The 3930
(26 items)
 
Junior's 3930
(22 items)
 
DATA/HTPC
(20 items)
 
  hide details  
Reply
post #39 of 80
Quote:
Originally Posted by jetplane48 View Post

Off topic but Taxi Driver had many deep, and emotional implications that suddenly tied the lives of two New York citizens causing the insurmountable climax at the end.
Well, all of that and Jodie Foster was darn cute as a 14 year old girl when I was 16 first time watching it tongue.gif

No no no smile.gif Johnny Cab, on mars. lol. That was a Google car years ahead of it's time.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
 
Folding for coinz
(14 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3930K EVGA Z79 Dark Asus HD7850 samsung 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Team XS3 SSD Got one Noctua u140 Have one too. Win7 for now 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer p234w Mechanical Today its a Fractal Fractal Arc XL 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
1 or 2 of them Cherry Some speekers Logitech 800 bluetooth/RF headset 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
xeon 1230 v3 Asrock Z87e itx powercolor r9 290 Changes like socks 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
m500 ssd no! ah, soon Vista Home Prem 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
no keycool LED Rosewill 500w passive Bitpenix phenom 
MouseMouse Pad
no tesoro 
  hide details  
Reply
 
Folding for coinz
(14 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3930K EVGA Z79 Dark Asus HD7850 samsung 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Team XS3 SSD Got one Noctua u140 Have one too. Win7 for now 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer p234w Mechanical Today its a Fractal Fractal Arc XL 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
1 or 2 of them Cherry Some speekers Logitech 800 bluetooth/RF headset 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
xeon 1230 v3 Asrock Z87e itx powercolor r9 290 Changes like socks 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
m500 ssd no! ah, soon Vista Home Prem 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
no keycool LED Rosewill 500w passive Bitpenix phenom 
MouseMouse Pad
no tesoro 
  hide details  
Reply
post #40 of 80
"welcome to johnny cab" here we come
 
omnius
(18 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Pentium 4 550 0J3492 NVIDIA GeForce 6800  Samsung  
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung  maxtor seagate momentus seagate momentus 
CoolingOSKeyboardMouse
STOCK-ish tower thingy windows xp home dell WTFK logitech g700 
Audio
sound blaster audigy 2 ZS 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500k asus p8z68-v pro gen3 evga geforce 570 superclocked corsair vengance low profile 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
seagate momentus seagate baracuda samsung 830 series LG bluray burner with 3d playback 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
LG dvd burner  cooler master hyper 212 EVO windows 7 ultimate 64bit dell u2312hm 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
dell WTFK wireless corsair tx-750v2 cooler master haf 932 advanced logitech g700 wired 
Audio
creative soundblaster audigy II ZS 
  hide details  
Reply
 
omnius
(18 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Pentium 4 550 0J3492 NVIDIA GeForce 6800  Samsung  
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung  maxtor seagate momentus seagate momentus 
CoolingOSKeyboardMouse
STOCK-ish tower thingy windows xp home dell WTFK logitech g700 
Audio
sound blaster audigy 2 ZS 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500k asus p8z68-v pro gen3 evga geforce 570 superclocked corsair vengance low profile 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
seagate momentus seagate baracuda samsung 830 series LG bluray burner with 3d playback 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
LG dvd burner  cooler master hyper 212 EVO windows 7 ultimate 64bit dell u2312hm 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
dell WTFK wireless corsair tx-750v2 cooler master haf 932 advanced logitech g700 wired 
Audio
creative soundblaster audigy II ZS 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Technology and Science News
Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Technology and Science News › [Telegraph] Google's robot cars pass driving test