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I dont use windows updates, its caused me so much grief I'd rather get a virus.

LOL What? 20 sec. of your time while you do other stuff. Man I need to get whatever you job is to have 20 sec of your times outweigh the value of all the data on my system.
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Most of those security faults preclude other security measures...
Also, not sure why you posted the Skype-related flaw. It existed before MSFT bought Skype and there are ways around IP tracking anyway.. But of course, this gives users too much credit.
I believe the last Windows update fixed 800 CRITICAL security flaws, much larger than the 50-100 that OS X Lion fixed. So at the end of the day, they are on top of security more than Apple is.

Thank you. By your own admission, Windows has anywhere from 8-16 times more CRITICAL vulnerabilities than OS X.

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Probably due to Windows having 8-16 times more features than OSX? thumbsupsmiley.png

 

Its not about how many vulnerabilities you have, every system is vulnerable.  What matters is how quickly is it repaired.

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every system is vulnerable
Mathematically untrue if "vulnerable" = contains remote code executions.
"Perfect" code is possible, it's just mathematics. It also takes a long time to write stable code.

Write a tiny program in assembly and you'll see that clean code can be written that contains no vulnerabilities. It just gets more difficult when you are using HLLs on huge projects that do not focus on security.
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It doesn't take MS 3 weeks to patch secuity holes that lead to 500,000 machines being infected...

No, even after 17+ years they still haven't patched many of them. Microsoft has a history of neglecting and ignoring critical vulnerabilities.
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At least MS patches more often and actually alerts it's users to danger...

You must be new to computers... Can't believe there's actually people that are this naive on a computer forum.
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No, even after 15+ years and still haven't patched many of them. Microsoft has a history of neglecting and ignoring critical vulnerabilities.
You must be new to computers... Can't believe there's actually people that are this naive on a computer forum.

This 100%
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I don't do Windows Updates, not since a few years ago. I can trust myself and anyone whom I allow to use my computer not to get any viruses and stuff on my computer from opening spam email or going on crazy porn sites.

Using Firefox with Adblock+Noscript and a clean Windows 7 SP 1 OS with no updates and still going strong with no malware, no stolen email and/or bank accounts, etc.
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I don't do Windows Updates, not since a few years ago. I can trust myself and anyone whom I allow to use my computer not to get any viruses and stuff on my computer from opening spam email or going on crazy porn sites.
Using Firefox with Adblock+Noscript and a clean Windows 7 SP 1 OS with no updates and still going strong with no malware, no stolen email and/or bank accounts, etc.

Security updates have very little to do with how knowledgeable you are at avoiding viruses, and the normal updates fix bugs.

Why on earth wouldn't you just click the button and spend 10 minutes updating? It takes less effort than it did to create your post.
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Automatic updates always demand that you restart at exactly the wrong time, even if it's just something for Office.

So set it to download and not install until you are ready?
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every system is vulnerable
Mathematically untrue if "vulnerable" = contains remote code executions.
"Perfect" code is possible, it's just mathematics. It also takes a long time to write stable code.

Write a tiny program in assembly and you'll see that clean code can be written that contains no vulnerabilities. It just gets more difficult when you are using HLLs on huge projects that do not focus on security.

 

Not making mistakes in the program is != security.   At least that is not all there is too it.  Your assembly code can be over written/modified, .dlls can be injected etc.  You forget the paradigm of it being written to disk, or RAM or even ROM, there are physical hacks.  Young people tend to forget that there are many more dimensions to hack from before you get to writing code, scripting, or what not.

 

Good clean code equals one thing, good clean code.

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I was JUST arguing with a friend over whether its a good idea to install Windows updates. I was saying yes, durr, of course, and he was claiming Windows Updates are annoying and a waste of time. I was like........ :|
I might link him to this article.

And he would be right.
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Not making mistakes in the program is != security.   At least that is not all there is too it.  Your assembly code can be over written/modified, .dlls can be injected etc.  You forget the paradigm of it being written to disk, or RAM or even ROM, there are physical hacks.  Young people tend to forget that there are many more dimensions to hack from before you get to writing code, scripting, or what not.

Good clean code equals one thing, good clean code.

This is what can't happen in OSX
 
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