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I'm sure they learned their lesson with that fine.

Spam does pay wink.gif
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I'm a member of adscend media... Lol.

Given that little/none of you even know how CPA marketing/internet marketing works, its kinda unfair to judge...

Facebook isn't at any way responsible for this, this was using the social side of facebook, not their built in ad platform.

This isn't really "scams" in the sense you think, no body lost money, dumb people just handed over personal information. Adscend media just made money off of that because affiliates of their network promoted offers from advertisers who were willing to pay for that information. The network just acts as the middle man, not responsible for the promotion methods or what the advertiser does with the information. If you don't want to lose personal information, don't post it or fill it out anywhere it may be compromised. These people have no-one to blame but themselves. Welcome to business and the real works, especially marketing.

Here is a better report. http://performinsider.com/2012/05/adscend-settles-with-ag-for-100k/
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but... I'm still waiting for my iphone. They said all I had to do was click two things!
    
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how did they make money off the spams? Is it like a fraud thing?
    
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Should be fined....
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But if they get shut down, does that mean I cant win anymore iPads?
It's too late anyway; I was #100,000.
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I bet they are crying over that 100k too. lol
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I've always believed if a company has fraudulent advertising then the regulators should force them to fulfill their promises. Like if they say "FREE IPADS!" with a tiny little disclaimer somewhere that nobody can find saying only 1 in 1million will win one then screw em. Make em hand out free ipads to everyone who clicked on their add. To me that would be both a just punishment and a very effective deterrent to prevent future liars from falsifying their claims.

Then again I haven't seen an add in years so I really don't care if the Tobies out there who can't figure out the internets get their feelings hurt by false claims and advertising. Looks like the court agrees with me with that slap on the wrist. Carry on spammers.
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I'm a member of adscend media... Lol.

So you just invalidated your testimony....
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Originally Posted by noak View Post

Given that little/none of you even know how CPA marketing/internet marketing works, its kinda unfair to judge...

How is it unfair to dislike forced advertising through misleading users? To make it worse who's judging? Their intent is immediately visible. They have been doing this for years.
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Facebook isn't at any way responsible for this, this was using the social side of facebook, not their built in ad platform.

No one said Facebook was responsible for this. Adscend media was, they abused the platform.
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This isn't really "scams" in the sense you think, no body lost money, dumb people just handed over personal information.

No one said anything about scams. Just you.
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Adscend media just made money off of that because affiliates of their network promoted offers from advertisers who were willing to pay for that information.

The problem lies in that people surrendered their information in hopes of accessing specific content. They intentionally mislead users to leach their information. I don't know about you, but that is wrong and should be illegal. Hell that is scamming now that you mention it.
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The network just acts as the middle man, not responsible for the promotion methods or what the advertiser does with the information.

Sounds like Adscend needs to think twice about who they hire if they don't want anymore of these types of lawsuits. The behavior is unacceptable and now adscend has to deal with the damage.
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If you don't want to lose personal information, don't post it or fill it out anywhere it may be compromised. These people have no-one to blame but themselves.

Spoke in like a true scammer. "I'm not doing anything wrong, I'm just taking people's information by social engineering."
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Welcome to business and the real works, especially marketing.
Here is a better report. http://performinsider.com/2012/05/adscend-settles-with-ag-for-100k/

That "report" doesn't even outline anything. It's a paragraph if that. And your "people are numbers" attitude is disgusting.
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I'm a member of adscend media... Lol.

So you just invalidated your testimony....
Quote:
Originally Posted by noak View Post

Given that little/none of you even know how CPA marketing/internet marketing works, its kinda unfair to judge...

How is it unfair to dislike forced advertising through misleading users? To make it worse who's judging? Their intent is immediately visible. They have been doing this for years.
Quote:
Originally Posted by noak View Post

Facebook isn't at any way responsible for this, this was using the social side of facebook, not their built in ad platform.

No one said Facebook was responsible for this. Adscend media was, they abused the platform.
Quote:
Originally Posted by noak View Post

This isn't really "scams" in the sense you think, no body lost money, dumb people just handed over personal information.

No one said anything about scams. Just you.
Quote:
Originally Posted by noak View Post

Adscend media just made money off of that because affiliates of their network promoted offers from advertisers who were willing to pay for that information.

The problem lies in that people surrendered their information in hopes of accessing specific content. They intentionally mislead users to leach their information. I don't know about you, but that is wrong and should be illegal. Hell that is scamming now that you mention it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by noak View Post

The network just acts as the middle man, not responsible for the promotion methods or what the advertiser does with the information.[/quo

Sounds like Adscend needs to think twice about who they hire if they don't want anymore of these types of lawsuits. The behavior is unacceptable and now adscend has to deal with the damage.
Quote:
Originally Posted by noak View Post

If you don't want to lose personal information, don't post it or fill it out anywhere it may be compromised. These people have no-one to blame but themselves.

Spoke in like a true scammer. "I'm not doing anything wrong, I'm just taking people's information by social engineering."
Quote:
Originally Posted by noak View Post

Welcome to business and the real works, especially marketing.
Here is a better report. http://performinsider.com/2012/05/adscend-settles-with-ag-for-100k/

That "report" doesn't even outline anything. It's a paragraph if that. And your "people are numbers" attitude is disgusting.

Thanks, it's fine since I make in one month what you probably make in a year. Hate it as much as you want, but it's the real world and isn't going to change. Also, adscend doesn't "hire" anyone, people sign up and promote the advertisers offers. Adscend only receives a small cut of the revenue, and isn't responsible for how its users promote offers. It's a bit like blaming a gun store for selling a guy a gun who kills some one with it.

Marketing=social engineering for the most part. It is evaluating, manipulating, and changing markets and consumers to best fit the conditions.

I never made the stand that stuff like this is ethical. But, in reality, damn near everything that makes a lot of money easily is unethical. If you telling me you had the mental capacity and method of getting $X,XXX,XXX per month even though it was "unethical" (NOT ILLEGAL), and you wouldn't do it at all, you are either extremely stupid or completely lying.

Ignorance is bliss
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Thanks, it's fine since I make in one month what you probably make in a year. Hate it as much as you want, but it's the real world and isn't going to change. Also, adscend doesn't "hire" anyone, people sign up and promote the advertisers offers. Adscend only receives a small cut of the revenue, and isn't responsible for how its users promote offers. It's a bit like blaming a gun store for selling a guy a gun who kills some one with it.
Marketing=social engineering for the most part. It is evaluating, manipulating, and changing markets and consumers to best fit the conditions.
I never made the stand that stuff like this is ethical. But, in reality, damn near everything that makes a lot of money easily is unethical. If you telling me you had the mental capacity and method of getting $X,XXX,XXX per month even though it was "unethical" (NOT ILLEGAL), and you wouldn't do it at all, you are either extremely stupid or completely lying.
Ignorance is bliss

Not everyone is a sell-out. Just because you are doesn't mean those that aren't are "Stupid". Some of us were brought up with Morals.
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