[BSON] AMD Counter-Attacks GeForce GTX 670, Questions NVIDIA's Kepler Availability - Page 20  

Originally Posted by RobotDevil666 

No amount of flaming is changing the fact Nvidia is winning this round , why do you think AMD bothers to put out a statement like that ? if everything was so fine and dandy thay wouldn't bother.
Like i said before all Nvidia needed to match/beat AMD offerings is GK104 , they didn't even release their mid range or true high end card , when those cards come out ....... yeah ...... AMD is sweating no doubt about that.
Why do you think Nvidia has GTX690 out already and 7990 is not even in the rumors even though AMD had 3 months lead in the 28nm GPU's ?
With TSMC giving Nvidia priority the supply shortage is going to end , not that's it's such a huge issue anyway , if you want you can get 680 or 690 just do some searching and keep a hand on the pulse ,no biggie.

Originally Posted by Bloitz 

I have to say that's a pretty low blow from AMD, but there's some truth to it.
Focusing on high-resolutions in reviews is pathetic though. I think the majority still plays on a single full HD (or lower, like me) screen. The people with eyefinity setups and 2560x1600 are a pretty small percentile I reckon.

Originally Posted by jcde7ago 

Yes, because it has NOTHING to do with the fact that demand for Kepler is so ridiculously bonkers that even if Nvidia could churn out these cards, who's to say that they STILL wouldn't be flying off the shelves/e-shelves?
This just propaganda for those on the fence about which way to go, and if they're impatient enough, this may push them over the edge toward the Red side, especially for the people tired of F5'ing multiple sites a day just to get a *chance* to buy a 680 or a 690 (let's not even talk about the 670 dropping - I predict 0 stock of that as well, given early performance indications).
Unfortunately, I don't know how effective this kind of advertising/marketing strategy is, as the people AMD are targeting with it that can actually afford to buy GPUs for upwards of $400, and if those people are sticking it out due to brand loyalty or because they just really want Kepler, this kind of poke will have little-to-no effect on those people. Yes, there will be those that will be pushed over the edge. But I can't imagine that it's a significant enough of a number that would have some sort of negative effect on the Green side.
And then there's the whole, "we know you've had no issues stocking the 7000 series, and we know you just dropped the price of the 7970 to $480 weeks ago just to compete with the 680, so doesn't this seem a tiny, tiny bit desperate in some regard?"
I mean, it CAN'T be a mere coincidence that this press release drops on the same day that Nvidia is given priority by TSMC to hit their May/June 28nm supply numbers. This is just free advertising for Nvidia, because everyone knows they can't keep the shelves stocked due to DEMAND, not because Nvidia is withholding stupid amounts of profits. Yes, supply is obviously nowhere near optimal, but when you're running out of $500-1000 GPUs in less than 5 minutes that they're stocked at ANY e-tailer, you're doing something incredibly, incredibly right.
And if we switched the roles of AMD and Nvidia RIGHT NOW, i'd be saying the exact same thing about AMD.

Originally Posted by Homeles 

You could say it a million times... repeating the same thing just makes you incorrect over and over. You're not going to suddenly win an argument by repetition.
AMD and Nvidia do this crap all the time, regardless of who's beating who. Your knowledge of the industry is clearly in its infancy.
AMD is absolutely right. How is Nvidia winning if they can't supply anybody? They're not. If AMD produced 100 units of a card that absolutely stomped Nvidia by 100%, would they be the winner? According to your logic, they would.
There's a lot more to business than that. AMD is still, as of right now, in the better position. It's a changing position, and they're losing ground, but until AMD drops their prices and Nvidia does in return, they're still going to have the upper hand.
This isn't about who's got the better card -- it's about market share. AMD is absolutely beating Nvidia at this, although Nvidia will definitely be catching up now that the 670 is released. Nvidia still has 4 cards that they need to answer, though.

Originally Posted by Ruined 

Exactly AMD was and is still way ahead of Nvidia this gen in terms of stock, they have had the entire line-up (except 7990) out for quite a bit now. Much more stock and at a better price. In the end we are talking about a business nothing more nothing less, marketing has always been around and this is part of it. If you are getting bent out of shape over what AMD has said, why? Is it because they are right? Is it that there card is better? Or is it because its AMD? If there card was truly inferior to Nvidia's why would anyone care what AMD was saying about it, as it barely attacks Nvidia only commenting on stock and it's lack of Vram for high res gaming. I'm just fed up with the GPU camps, buy what you want and be happy. If you are getting angry at either company over what they say about the other, you need to calm down it's just a business strategy (which is apparently working).
Edit: OCScrub you and me both

Originally Posted by eur0thug 

what are you talking about? just bought my GTX 670 for 399$ shipped on amazon.. yes 400$ thats 119$ less then you are saying... yes AMD better drop thier price or they are screwed.

Originally Posted by PostalTwinkie 

Two things...
1) People have already purchase the GTX 670 at $399.
2) Gamers do not need, or care, about compute performance.
If AMD dropped down to that ~$320 I could see them moving a lot of stock, if not they need to be prepaid to sit on a lot of that stock, as the 670 at $399 is a hell of a card.

Originally Posted by eur0thug 

what are you talking about? just bought my GTX 670 for 399$ shipped on amazon.. yes 400$ thats 119$ less then you are saying... yes AMD better drop thier price or they are screwed.