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So I recently got some old computers from a friend and work who wasnt using them. One of the working ones is :
soyo kt600 dragon ultra
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BFG GeForce 6800 OC
1.5 G Corsair DDR 333 Mhz RAM

I recently got all the (tons of) dust cleaned out from it and was gonna start pushing it on some OC. Its not unlocked so FSB is my only option (though I think I read somewhere I can take a knife to it... might try that why not), I was just curious of anyone who had a chance to mess with one of these at any time what kind of realistic gains I can possibly get out of the OC. Or if anyone had specific suggestions before I get started.

Its actually pretty hard to find information on the motherboard since SoYo is apparently out of business, anything anyone might know here would be a great help!
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Check this out.

http://www.ocinside.de/go_e.html?http://www.ocinside.de/html/workshop/pinmod/amd_pinmod.html
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I wil have fun playing with this! Thanks!!!
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Soyo is out of business, but I remember that being a pretty good Socket A motherboard.

The problem you will run into is that the XP 3200+ runs pretty close to its thermal limits. It was the very last Athlon XP ever released, at a time when AMD was trying to push up the clock speeds to compete with Intel's last Pentium 4 processors, which were clocked more than 1 GHz higher. The 3200+ is almost a factory overclock, plus it's a "Barton" core with the larger L2 cache, which also seems to limit its o/c potential. I had much more success with Thoroughbred and Applebred cores than I ever did with Bartons.

Have fun with it, though. One thing I can say for them is that I'd rather work with an old Athlon XP any day of the week rather than an old Pentium 4. It's like working with a classic car as opposed to an ugly, gas-guzzling clunker that somehow still runs.
     
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Actually that is correct. That particular Soyo motherboard was quite a beast back in the day. I remember owning one, and loving it.

Your CPU, honestly isn't even worth pin modding. It's already near the max CPU speed its going to hit anyway, and the board you've got can easily do some FSB tweaking. Just knock the RAM down to dual channel (maybe 2x512MB, or see if you can find 2x1GB DDR400). It'll be a lot easier to get a good overclock out of it with matched sticks of RAM. Realistically, you're looking at 2.3-2.5GHz as a possibility out of that chip....if even that much. So its not like its something that your motherboard won't handle.

And honestly man, I'm kind of jealous. I wish I had a rig like that around still. I loved Athlon XP processors. That entire setup is extremely beastly (for its day), and it would still be COMPLETELY useable, even in Windows 7. Heck, you could even do some light gaming on it still today. I'll bet it would handle most Source games just fine.
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I have my old barton 3200+ sitting in a box at home, I don't know the motherboard model off my head but it is an asus with VIA chipset. I also have the 1.5gb of RAM and geforce 7600gs agp that goes along with it. My brother was using it until a few months ago when the PS blew, Those parts still can run windows 7 like a champ and play older game perfectly fine. My bro was using it to play WOW for awhile and it had no problems.

Sure they are old, but AMD sure knew how to make a good CPUs back in the day.
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I have my old barton 3200+ sitting in a box at home, I don't know the motherboard model off my head but it is an asus with VIA chipset. I also have the 1.5gb of RAM and geforce 7600gs agp that goes along with it. My brother was using it until a few months ago when the PS blew, Those parts still can run windows 7 like a champ and play older game perfectly fine. My bro was using it to play WOW for awhile and it had no problems.
Sure they are old, but AMD sure knew how to make a good CPUs back in the day.

that they did. i ran my 2800+ for years and never once had any issues thing was solid
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Soyo is out of business, but I remember that being a pretty good Socket A motherboard.
The problem you will run into is that the XP 3200+ runs pretty close to its thermal limits. It was the very last Athlon XP ever released, at a time when AMD was trying to push up the clock speeds to compete with Intel's last Pentium 4 processors, which were clocked more than 1 GHz higher. The 3200+ is almost a factory overclock, plus it's a "Barton" core with the larger L2 cache, which also seems to limit its o/c potential. I had much more success with Thoroughbred and Applebred cores than I ever did with Bartons.
Have fun with it, though. One thing I can say for them is that I'd rather work with an old Athlon XP any day of the week rather than an old Pentium 4. It's like working with a classic car as opposed to an ugly, gas-guzzling clunker that somehow still runs.
I work with old P4s at work... its brain numbing lol!
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Actually that is correct. That particular Soyo motherboard was quite a beast back in the day. I remember owning one, and loving it.
Your CPU, honestly isn't even worth pin modding. It's already near the max CPU speed its going to hit anyway, and the board you've got can easily do some FSB tweaking. Just knock the RAM down to dual channel (maybe 2x512MB, or see if you can find 2x1GB DDR400). It'll be a lot easier to get a good overclock out of it with matched sticks of RAM. Realistically, you're looking at 2.3-2.5GHz as a possibility out of that chip....if even that much. So its not like its something that your motherboard won't handle.
And honestly man, I'm kind of jealous. I wish I had a rig like that around still. I loved Athlon XP processors. That entire setup is extremely beastly (for its day), and it would still be COMPLETELY useable, even in Windows 7. Heck, you could even do some light gaming on it still today. I'll bet it would handle most Source games just fine.

Thx for the info here.

I will give a shot of popping out one stick to see where I can get with the FSB. I plan on having some fun with this, and wouldnt mind turning it over into a linux server for the house. Though I have a P4 laptop that might handle doing that just as well too.

The guy I got this from had a few other machines he handed over as well, all were beasts for their day. Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe is one of them I am trying to get running again for him (cuz it can handle games of today pretty well)... a P4 Dell with some RDRAM in it (remember that stuff?), and another P4 in a full tower with 2 DVD writers and a regular DVD drive (presumably they burned a number of DVDs on it lol) most of which is still IDE connected. Fun stuff to play with when I get to reclaim my work area from the pile of crap my wife left on it !!!
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i alwasy wondered what amount of watts them p4s pull from the wall?
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i alwasy wondered what amount of watts them p4s pull from the wall?
Some things are better left a mystery!
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