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Uhm, quote me if I'm wrong, but when did Apple EVER say that anybody copied or immitated their products?

Are you trolling? Or are you talking specifically about the Air and similar ultrabook machines?

Well, if you're specifically referencing ultrabooks, then true, Apple has not said that anyone copied/imitated their products--but they have gone so far as to strong-arm Pegatron (the manufacturer of the ASUS Zenbook) to stop producing it (or risk losing their iphone contract). rolleyes.gif
    
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I don't blame Apple, I blame the government for allowing them to patent stupid crap like they do.

I see this logic all the time in these types of threads and it really bugs me. Even if murder wasn't technically illegal, would you not look down on people that committed it? Legal does not equate to moral.
    
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Weren't the unibody MBP and the old HP Envy bodies out sourced to the same manufacturer? Personally don't care.
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Weren't the unibody MBP and the old HP Envy bodies out sourced to the same manufacturer? Personally don't care.

Are you talking about Quanta?
     
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Uh...if it weren't for Apple making stunning products like they have been, none of the manufacturers would be down this road. We would all have thick laptops that are all plastic outside and look and feel like crap.
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I think "stunning" is really overselling it.
    
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Uh...if it weren't for Apple making stunning products like they have been, none of the manufacturers would be down this road. We would all have thick laptops that are all plastic outside and look and feel like crap.

doh.gif

Apple's finest 13" in 2005, sorry a 12". Weight, 4.6 pounds! Thickness.. 1.18", not horrible but it must be a solid aluminum block with a slot cut out for motherboard and a hole for the HDD... sheesh. http://lowendmac.com/pb2/12in-powerbook-g4-1.5-ghz.html

Toshiba Portege R200, 2005. 2.7 pounds, 12" laptop, 0.7" thick. That's what I'm talkin about! http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1788138,00.asp?tab=Specs

Sony X505, 2004. http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_VAIO_X505_series/4505-3121_7-30886049.html

And this is by no means exhaustive, nor the best I could find. Lenovo's Thinkpad X30 is from roughly 2005, probably weighs 3-3.5 pounds. Acer had Travelmate laptops way back then, some were fairly light. etc. etc.
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doh.gif
Apple's finest 13" in 2005, sorry a 12". Weight, 4.6 pounds! Thickness.. 1.18", not horrible but it must be a solid aluminum block with a slot cut out for motherboard and a hole for the HDD... sheesh. http://lowendmac.com/pb2/12in-powerbook-g4-1.5-ghz.html
Toshiba Portege R200, 2005. 2.7 pounds, 12" laptop, 0.7" thick. That's what I'm talkin about! http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1788138,00.asp?tab=Specs
Sony X505, 2004. http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_VAIO_X505_series/4505-3121_7-30886049.html
And this is by no means exhaustive, nor the best I could find. Lenovo's Thinkpad X30 is from roughly 2005, probably weighs 3-3.5 pounds. Acer had Travelmate laptops way back then, some were fairly light. etc. etc.

Way to use 7 year old hardware as a reference. doh.gif
     
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Way to use 7 year old hardware as a reference. doh.gif

Uhhh that was the point? The person he quoted said that if Apple hadn't been "pushing progress" then we would still have thick laptops. He was refuting it by saying that they weren't the first to make a thin laptop that was "revolutionary".
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Uh...if it weren't for Apple making stunning products like they have been, none of the manufacturers would be down this road. We would all have thick laptops that are all plastic outside and look and feel like crap.

doh.gif

Apple's finest 13" in 2005, sorry a 12". Weight, 4.6 pounds! Thickness.. 1.18", not horrible but it must be a solid aluminum block with a slot cut out for motherboard and a hole for the HDD... sheesh. http://lowendmac.com/pb2/12in-powerbook-g4-1.5-ghz.html

Toshiba Portege R200, 2005. 2.7 pounds, 12" laptop, 0.7" thick. That's what I'm talkin about! http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1788138,00.asp?tab=Specs

Sony X505, 2004. http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_VAIO_X505_series/4505-3121_7-30886049.html

And this is by no means exhaustive, nor the best I could find. Lenovo's Thinkpad X30 is from roughly 2005, probably weighs 3-3.5 pounds. Acer had Travelmate laptops way back then, some were fairly light. etc. etc.
I'm not familiar with the processors and GPUs back then, but isn't the PowerBook more powerful? It's got a 1.5GHz processor, a NVidia GPU, 5400 RPM HDD, and a Super Drive, whereas the Toshiba has a 1.2GHz processor, an Intel GPU, a 4200 RPM HDD and no internal DVD drive.

Obviously if it produces less heat and has no internal DVD drive it's going to be able to be made smaller and lighter.
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