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post #221 of 425
5/10/12 at 3:57pm
Definitely going to buy two EVGA ones sometime soon. That white will look absolutely amazing in my white Switch 810. biggrin.gif

Quick question though, what are the advantages of going with the SC edition? Couldn't I just as easily OC them myself? Or do they somehow have a higher ceiling?

Also, what are the advantages of a backplate, other that aesthetics?
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5/10/12 at 4:08pm
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Definitely going to buy two EVGA ones sometime soon. That white will look absolutely amazing in my white Switch 810. biggrin.gif
Quick question though, what are the advantages of going with the SC edition? Couldn't I just as easily OC them myself? Or do they somehow have a higher ceiling?
Also, what are the advantages of a backplate, other that aesthetics?

SC versions might be *slightly* higher binned, but usually they're just guaranteed OC's out of the factory by EVGA.

Backplates are primarily for aesthetics and protection/shielding the PCB of the card. It may make a 1-2c drop in temps as they absorb a tiny amount of heat.
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5/10/12 at 4:11pm
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Definitely going to buy two EVGA ones sometime soon. That white will look absolutely amazing in my white Switch 810. biggrin.gif
Quick question though, what are the advantages of going with the SC edition? Couldn't I just as easily OC them myself? Or do they somehow have a higher ceiling?
Also, what are the advantages of a backplate, other that aesthetics?

SC edition is a factory overclocked version, yes you can theoritcally overclock to those numbers yourself as long as the board specs are simliar to the stock model.

Advantage of the backplate is to help spread the heat evenly on cards with memory on the back of the pcb such as the 4gb model. As far as the 2gb model, it is all aesthetics.
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5/10/12 at 4:15pm
Looks pretty good. Performance a bit below the 7970 with less power consumption and terrible compute performance -- seems the two companies have switched positions since a couple years ago lol (not that the 7970 is anywhere near as much of a power hog as GF100). The small PCB is nice for water coolers I guess but other than that until some AIB makes a short enough cooler I just don't see too much of a real benefit for most users. As an engineering feat however the PCB is very impressive.

I'd like to see results of OC 7950 vs OC GTX 670. The 7950 is at a significant clock disadvantage (800MHz vs 980MHz+) though probably OCs similarly. Perhaps the same situation as with HD 7970 vs GTX 680?

One last thing I draw from this: AMD, it's time to lower your damn prices again. If I had to make a prediction, 7970 for $399 or $429, 7950 for $329 or $349, 7870 for $279, 7850 for somewhere between $199 and $229. Then hopefully we'll see a 7830 at somewhere between $159 and $179 to close the huge gap between the 7770 and 7850. However, I doubt we'll see these price drops unless NVIDIA finally has its supply issues worked out.
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5/10/12 at 4:25pm
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Looks pretty good. Performance a bit below the 7970 with less power consumption and terrible compute performance -- seems the two companies have switched positions since a couple years ago lol (not that the 7970 is anywhere near as much of a power hog as GF100). The small PCB is nice for water coolers I guess but other than that until some AIB makes a short enough cooler I just don't see too much of a real benefit for most users. As an engineering feat however the PCB is very impressive.
I'd like to see results of OC 7950 vs OC GTX 670. The 7950 is at a significant clock disadvantage (800MHz vs 980MHz+) though probably OCs similarly. Perhaps the same situation as with HD 7970 vs GTX 680?
One last thing I draw from this: AMD, it's time to lower your damn prices again. If I had to make a prediction, 7970 for $399 or $429, 7950 for $329 or $349, 7870 for $279, 7850 for somewhere between $199 and $229. Then hopefully we'll see a 7830 at somewhere between $159 and $179 to close the huge gap between the 7770 and 7850. However, I doubt we'll see these price drops unless NVIDIA finally has its supply issues worked out.

I don't think there are going to be any supply issues with 670s as they have been up for sale all over the place for almost 12 hours and have still not sold out. In fact, NewEgg and Amazon just RE-STOCKED. And we're talking 95% the performance of 680s here for $100 less, so there's no reason why these things should not be flying off the shelves at the same if not faster pace than 680s were.

What's actually happening is, with the reportedly low yields for Kepler, Nvidia was likely sitting on an enormous stockpile of GK104s that just didn't quite make it as a full-fledged chip with all the SMs enabled, so they can disable an SM and sell them en masse as a 670.

AMD will absolutely need another price drop, and fast. They cannot hope to compete with Nvidia in this generation without taking the price/performance crown. The fact that they've already cut the prices of the 7970 from $550 just to compete with the 680 does not instill much confidence in their product to compete in the same price range as Nvidia, period. To me, that's a serious issue.
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5/10/12 at 4:29pm
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I don't think there are going to be any supply issues with 670s as they have been up for sale all over the place for almost 12 hours and have still not sold out. In fact, NewEgg and Amazon just RE-STOCKED. And we're talking 95% the performance of 680s here for $100 less, so there's no reason why these things should not be flying off the shelves at the same if not faster pace than 680s were.
What's actually happening is, with the reportedly low yields for Kepler, Nvidia was likely sitting on an enormous stockpile of GK104s that just didn't quite make it as a full-fledged chip with all the SMs enabled, so they can disable an SM and sell them en masse as a 670.
AMD will absolutely need another price drop, and fast. They cannot hope to compete with Nvidia in this generation without taking the price/performance crown. The fact that they've already cut the prices of the 7970 from $550 just to compete with the 680 does not instill much confidence in their product to compete in the same price range as Nvidia, period. To me, that's a serious issue.

That's what I was thinking.
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What's actually happening is, with the reportedly low yields for Kepler, Nvidia was likely sitting on an enormous stockpile of GK104s that just didn't quite make it as a full-fledged chip with all the SMs enabled, so they can disable an SM and sell them en masse as a 670.
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5/10/12 at 4:55pm
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Definitely going to buy two EVGA ones sometime soon. That white will look absolutely amazing in my white Switch 810. biggrin.gif
Quick question though, what are the advantages of going with the SC edition? Couldn't I just as easily OC them myself? Or do they somehow have a higher ceiling?
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MSi bins their Lightning models, that's all I know of off-hand that are binned. If any given card is binned, the manufacturer would probably put that as a brag point on their official site/product page. But technically binning doesn't necessarily mean it'll clock higher, it's just higher quality silicon, they don't actually hook it up to a PCB until after it's binned (meaning, they don't test OCing ability to determine binning).
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5/10/12 at 4:57pm
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Fine by me! thumb.gif

Yep. thumb.gif

The performance difference across Kepler variants is so utterly negligible(right now) that what little discrepancies arise can actually be blamed on Margin of Error...which, while fine, I can definitely see irritating early 680 adopters and those who purchased a 690.

Let's keep in mind though, that those who invested in a 680 knew they would be paying an early adopter/flagship card premium as with every generation, unless you just like...bought one in the past week, even though 670 numbers have been floating around for a while now.

For the 690 owners like myself...I will take the teenie performance edge over 670s in SLI and the fact that the 690 is a top-end targeted product with having an SLI solution in a single card, with less noise, less heat, less power consumption and a unique high-end design, so that to me was worth the premium. And it's not like i'll have trouble reselling this card, either. thumb.gif

Regardless of choice, I think people have a lot to be excited about with whatever they invest in at this point. smile.gif
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i7 3930K @ 4.7 Ghz (1.368v) ASUS P9X79 Pro EVGA GTX 690 16 GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 Quad-Channel 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
2x Crucial M4 256 GB SSDs, 4x WD RE4 2 TB HDDs ... Lite-on BD/DVD/CD Drive XSPC RayStorm CPU Block XSPC RX360 Rad + XSPC RX120 Rad 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
6x Scythe AP-15 GTs Windows 7 Ultimate, 64-bit Achieva QH270 (LG) 2560x1440, IPS, 27" Logitech G19 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair AX1200 Corsair 800D Alienware TactX (G9x) Recon3D Fatal1ty Pro Sound Card w/ Front Panel 
AudioAudioOtherOther
Ultimate Ears TripleFi 10.vi Corsair Vengeance 1100 Headset/Mic Lamptron FC Touch Fan Controller WinTV HVR-950Q TV Tuner 
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Bigfoot Networks Killer 2100 NIC 
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i5 3317U @ 1.7 Ghz Surface Pro proprietary Intel HD 4000 4GB DDR3 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
128GB mSATA SSD Passive Windows 8 Pro, 64-bit 1920x1080p, IPS, Capacitive Touchscreen, with D... 
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2560x1440p...Maxed out.
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Microsoft Surface Pro 128GB
(10 items)
  		 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3930K @ 4.7 Ghz (1.368v) ASUS P9X79 Pro EVGA GTX 690 16 GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 Quad-Channel 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
2x Crucial M4 256 GB SSDs, 4x WD RE4 2 TB HDDs ... Lite-on BD/DVD/CD Drive XSPC RayStorm CPU Block XSPC RX360 Rad + XSPC RX120 Rad 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
6x Scythe AP-15 GTs Windows 7 Ultimate, 64-bit Achieva QH270 (LG) 2560x1440, IPS, 27" Logitech G19 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair AX1200 Corsair 800D Alienware TactX (G9x) Recon3D Fatal1ty Pro Sound Card w/ Front Panel 
AudioAudioOtherOther
Ultimate Ears TripleFi 10.vi Corsair Vengeance 1100 Headset/Mic Lamptron FC Touch Fan Controller WinTV HVR-950Q TV Tuner 
Other
Bigfoot Networks Killer 2100 NIC 
View all
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 3317U @ 1.7 Ghz Surface Pro proprietary Intel HD 4000 4GB DDR3 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
128GB mSATA SSD Passive Windows 8 Pro, 64-bit 1920x1080p, IPS, Capacitive Touchscreen, with D... 
KeyboardAudio
Type Cover keyboard Built-in Stereo speakers 
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