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Numbers-wise, Intel kills despite the APUs having the more advanced gpu. But what really matters (IMHO) isn't which one scores the highest, but rather which one scores the best in price:performance. Outside of the enthusiast segment, CPUs are so overpowered for the day-to-day tasks of computer users that people are tending to go with the lower-numbers-performing option because the price is right.

This all the way.
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I've said this many times before, and I will say it again: the number of people that use their laptops for document productivity, media creation and other cpu-intensive tasks far outweighs the number of people who do heavy gaming on a laptop. Besides, most gaming occurs on consoles, handheld devices and desktop gaming pcs, in that order.

LoL!! this is funny I should give u +Rep for your silly response.
You WILL NOT notice the CPU performance difference on a laptop for everyday use... If I need more power, then ill use my desktop plain and simple. But usually when im on the go, It would be nice if I can play BF3 or LoL without having to worry about it. its more convenient. Better price, lower cost, and low power consumption when I am not gaming... When you wish upon a star...
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Graphics score, what about CPU score?

I think both you and me know that Trinity APUs will still get severely beaten by everything Intel has to offer. The only thing AMD is good at, is IGP performance, which is where it crush the HD4000.
All in all, Trinity is only good for people looking for a cheap desktop, while people who game with a dedicated GPU will go much better off with a CPU from Intel.

I'll agree Intel is, overall and all around a better choice, all fanboism aside... (Outside of the IGP)...

I wouldn't even consider AMD unless this APU was like in a tablet or Notebook, IF the price was right..
Edited by _GTech - 5/10/12 at 8:33pm
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*reads title* Uhm,.. embedded systems maybe?

Its for laptops and notebooks. Embedded systems need to be somewhere between .25-.5 watts not 35 watts.
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Its for laptops and notebooks. Embedded systems need to be somewhere between .25-.5 watts not 35 watts.

AMD cites casino game machines as an application for their embedded graphics chips. I'm pretty sure those aren't limited to such small power envelopes.
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£30 Intel Celeron G530 performs better than a Core2Duo E8400 and has HD2000 graphics. If you want a cheap desktop Intel is also a viable option wink.gif

can G530 beat a E8400 at 4GHZ though?

also i dont even think a Pentium Sandy Bridge really beats e8400 according to this

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/56?vs=406

the e8400 doesn't even have an IGP and likewise, the difference is rather small to begin with.
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the e8400 doesn't even have an IGP and likewise, the difference is rather small to begin with.

HD 2000 sucks though, can you even play any modern game with it?

I do like the Celeron G530 though, I used it for two friend builds so far but used AMD card with them.
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If you need something for office "productivity" go buy a used pentium 4 laptop with WIN XP SP3 and spread sheet the hell out of it. Next if you need a bigger screen use a 24" CRT, people just throw em away.

The bottleneck in average joe systems has always been the hard drive and graphics adapter. AMD has done a good job making one mainstream, now there is another problem...
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can G530 beat a E8400 at 4GHZ though?
also i dont even think a Pentium Sandy Bridge really beats e8400 according to this
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/56?vs=406

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HD 2000 sucks though, can you even play any modern game with it?
I do like the Celeron G530 though, I used it for two friend builds so far but used AMD card with them.

You missed the point which was people were saying to get an AMD for desktops (like, office and home use) because they're cheap. But the Celeron G530 outperforms an E8400, has an IGP and is only around £30. The point isn't to be playing games on it. Overclocking the E8400 isn't an option for someone on a budget, either.

Celeron G530: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Celeron+G530+%40+2.40GHz = 2,260 - £31

A6-3140MX http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=AMD+A6-3410MX+APU = 2.260 - Laptop only

A4-3400 http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=AMD+A4-3400+APU = 1,704 - £46

A6-3500 www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=AMD+A6-3500+APU = 2,122 - £54

and finally

E8400 http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Core2+Duo+E8400+%40+3.00GHz = 2,222 - £~120

Dunno why those benches you show have it lower because every where else seems to have it pegged higher.


Imho, when building a PC for home users who aren't going to be playing games it looks like Intel is a viable option. I used one myself just recently and I was absolutely shocked by how well a £30 CPU performs. We have an E8400 in the HTPC and it benches at just under the G540 on Passmark. The G530 gets 2,400 and the E8400 gets 2,345 (both are higher than the scores on Passmark's website) but baring in mind that the G530 is a 65W CPU that draws around 6-20W on idle and the E8500 draws roughly 30W on idle (including C1E and EIST enabled), the G530 is 2.4GHz and the E8400 is 3GHz... it makes it extremely viable and a much better CPU, especially given that it has a IGP which the E8400 doesn't.

It also seems to handle gaming just fine, not that' that's the point of the discussion we're having....


http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/celeron-g540-g440_6.html#sect0
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Way too many people sit and stare at benchmark numbers. My laptop's M320 (Athlon dual core @ 2.1) runs netween 800 and 1400 MHz most of the time. Do I notice a difference when I'm doing some spread sheet for work? Do I notice a difference when I'm surfing the internet?

If you need to have a high end desktop replacement you're doing everything wrong by looking at an APU. If, however, you want a cheap, productive laptop AMD offer the best CPU/GPU in their price segment. The moment I start lagging while playing music, surfing the net and working on a spreadsheet I will accept what you lot are saying about Intel, until then I will stick with this laptop and its 2GB RAM.
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