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Seems that people around the world have internet throttling?
not here in the north smile.gif would suck tho
    
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If only BREIN would go away now frown.gif
But today the court ordered all other ISP's (large ones atleast) should block TPB. So KPN, T-Mobile, UPC, Tele2, Telfort have to follow XS4ALL and Ziggo with blocking TPB....
    
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ME!!!
Just make sure that everyone onboard runs Linux to avoid... confrontations. thumb.gif

Haha, a plane full of OCN people, it would be a bloodbath.... reminds me of the ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny lol thumb.gif

Who would remain standing? Linux, mac, windows, solaris, intel, amd, nvidia, air coolers, folders, candlestick-makers?
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Originally Posted by Skiivari View Post

Seems that people around the world have internet throttling?
not here in the north smile.gif would suck tho

I don't know. I can get max 3-4 Mbps download speed on my 25 Mb line ( 24 ish according to speedtest) so I don't know if that's throttling. But a certain site is blocked here in Belgium. And I hate the general idea of oppression ^^
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Haha, a plane full of OCN people, it would be a bloodbath.... reminds me of the ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny lol thumb.gif
Who would remain standing? Linux, mac, windows, solaris, intel, amd, nvidia, air coolers, folders, candlestick-makers?

"I'm tired of these mfing fanboys on this mfing plane ! " - Samuel L Jackson

EDIT:
Or a better idea: The Hardware Games . Let forum members fight for hardware. That would be television thumb.gif
Edited by Bloitz - 5/10/12 at 8:38am
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I was always under the impression that "Net Neutrality" law is one of the worst things for consumers. Wouldn't you rather have the ability to speak with your wallet to effect ISPs as opposed to fold to the whim of what your government law thinks you can and cannot legally do with your internet connection? It's rare that any NN law that governs how your ISP can act goes without stipulations of how a user can act.

If ISPs (specifically large ISPs) continue to impose throttling and filtering (which consumers don't want), it's only a matter of a short period of time before a smaller ISP comes in to offer what the consumers prefer. Happened where I live (granted, not the netherlands). A small ISP that has no caps and doesn't appear to impose throttling came in, and they have had no problem getting customers. Same price or lower as similar packages with larger providers.

Having net neutrality laws basically means that your ISP doesn't need to respond to consumer demands by speaking with their wallets.

Also, this seems like the first step toward huge limitations and laws on what you're allowed to do on the net, and what you're allowed to access (specifically what you'll be able to access in the future) for your given region. More than it already is.
    
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*SNIP*

"I'm tired of these mfing fanboys on this mfing plane ! " - Samuel L Jackson
*SNIP*

I LOL'ed hard!

 

But seriously, grats to this...now if only the world would just jump into this.

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What's Netherlands like? I may be moving. lol
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Wow.. hope this works out for them. But wont ISPs just lower speeds then if people can download 24/7?
Just because this passes doesn't mean people go nuts and DOWNLOAD ALL THE LINKS!!!1!!
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This is a strange law.

I'm from the Netherlands, and my understanding is that this does not effect existing filters, so the 2 ISP's that had been court ordered to block TPB (Ziggo and XS4ALL) have to continue blocking it.

Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Wow.. hope this works out for them. But wont ISPs just lower speeds then if people can download 24/7?

Downloading music and films was already legal (grey area, noone cares), so this shouldn't change anything. I have also never experienced slow internet due to heavy usage, so I assume we have more then enough capacity. Also fiberoptics have been implemented to many cities and towns, so I don't think we will reach overcapacity for a long time. Many ISP's also host binary usenet which you get free access too, and download files at your full speed over SSL smile.gif
Edited by .:hybrid:. - 5/10/12 at 9:37am
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post #30 of 84
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This is a strange law.
I'm from the Netherlands, and my understanding is that this does not effect existing filters, so the 2 ISP's that had been court ordered to block TPB (Ziggo and XS4ALL) have to continue blocking it.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Downloading music and films was already legal (grey area, noone cares), so this shouldn't change anything. I have also never experienced slow internet due to heavy usage, so I assume we have more then enough capacity.

If your still in the Netherlands.. can I come live with you?
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