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the 7950 can eat gtx680 in crysis 2 both OC

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but not in bf3
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This might be relevant to your interests.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1256502/670-vs-7950-overclocking-war/0_20
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thanks ill check tomorrow. gotta sleep, gotta be at school in 8 hours tongue.gif
post #34 of 237
670 is the worthy investment

It even beats the 7970 in a couple games stock.
    
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This might be relevant to your interests.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1256502/670-vs-7950-overclocking-war/0_20

+1 gtx670 is a good card but dont hype it too much.
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Originally Posted by Bo_Punk_2.0 View Post

This might be relevant to your interests.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1256502/670-vs-7950-overclocking-war/0_20
A gtx670 overclocked to 1250 (the average any competent OC'er can hit) vs an overclocked 7950 at 1175 (which is on the high-end here) both cards are about equal in gaming benchmarks, with a clear advantage given to the 670 in a lot of the newer games with heavy tessellation and physics.

As i said in that thread, this comparison is skewed in favor of the 7950. They're comparing a non-reference 7950 that has improved cooling to a reference 670. That alone accounts for the small difference as non-reference models are usually about 4-5% better than their reference counterparts at overclocking. But then you also need to take note that the 7950 is at very good OC for the card compared to the 670 which is poorly overclocked to only 1200mhz which is about 50hmz less than average and 150mhz less than the high-end. They also didn't overclock the 670's memory very well, only to 1555mhz when the 670 can easily hit 1800+mhz on the memory too. Then you also need to notice they switched motherboards between reviews which isn't a huge deal, but it could account for as much as 1-3% difference. So considering all that, and the fact the 670 in that review beat the 7950 in 4 out of the 7 games and only lost by an average of 10% in the other 3 (and 2 of those 3 were crysis and crysis 2, so really it's only 2 additional games), and that the 670 in that review is underclocked by about 10% below average, it's safe to say that a FULLY overclocked 670 will beat a FULLY overclocked 7950 by a fairly large margin. Then you also have all of the other benefits nvidia currently has over AMD (for example, the 670 uses 52 less watts when overclocked, it's quieter, it has better driver/software support, less micro-stuttering, and better SLI/CF implementation), it's pretty obvious to me which is the winner here.
Edited by SeanPoe - 5/13/12 at 4:09pm
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A gtx670 overclocked to 1250 (the average any competent OC'er can hit) vs an overclocked 7950 at 1175 (which is on the high-end here) both cards are about equal in gaming benchmarks, with a clear advantage given to the 670 in a lot of the newer games with heavy tessellation and physics.
As i said in that thread, this comparison is skewed in favor of the 7950. They're comparing a non-reference 7950 that has improved cooling to a reference 670. That alone accounts for the small difference as non-reference models are usually about 4-5% better than their reference counterparts at overclocking. But then you also need to take note that the 7950 is at very good OC for the card compared to the 670 which is poorly overclocked to only 1200mhz which is about 50hmz less than average and 150mhz less than the high-end. They also didn't overclock the 670's memory very well, only to 1555mhz when the 670 can easily hit 1800+mhz on the memory too. Then you also need to notice they switched motherboards between reviews which isn't a huge deal, but it could account for as much as 1-3% difference. So considering all that, and the fact the 670 in that review beat the 7950 in 4 out of the 7 games and only lost by an average of 10% in the other 3 (and 2 of those 3 were crysis and crysis 2, so really it's only 2 additional games), and that the 670 in that review is underclocked by about 10% below average, it's safe to say that a FULLY overclocked 670 will beat a FULLY overclocked 7950 by a fairly large margin. Then you also have all of the other benefits nvidia currently has over AMD (for example, the 670 uses 52 less watts when overclocked, it's quieter, it has better driver/software support, less micro-stuttering, and better SLI/CF implementation), it's pretty obvious to me which is the winner here.
you know that a gtx670 overclock scale is not so good? also not all the cards overclock the same. in your previous comment you talk about skyrim that nvidia is better. You can see that a 7950 oc has higher fps in skyrim than gtx670. Drivers is good with single configuration. Also if you take the actual boost clock the oc potential of a gtx670 is not so good. Its a good card but 7950 is a beast at overclock. And you say that a gtx670 is underclock when itself overclock. Also your statement about the reference cards. My sapphire 7970 reference can overclock way higher than my asus dcII. Reference doesnt mean lower potential, just better utilities. GTX670 is a good card (i am amd fan) i would suggest someone to take a gtx670 but i would take the 7950 for better and really good at feelings overclock and the 1 gb more vram. For me both cards are equal. But with your comment you destroy 7950 in front of gtx670

http://www.overclock.net/t/1235557/official-top-30-heaven-benchmark-3-0-scores/140#post_16995609 for this i would take a 7950
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GTX 670 hits 1300+ from what I've been seeing on OCN and thats just it boosting. I know as soon as its my birthday I'm picking one up. biggrin.gif

I will not take seriously any review of nvidia 600 series till they can turn off the auto boost...
As it is a very short lived experience, and setups are different from pc to pc..

We NEED benchs with this feature turned off entirely.... Which cannot be done so i take nvidia 6xx reviews with a grain of salt..
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I will not take seriously any review of nvidia 600 series till they can turn off the auto boost...
As it is a very short lived experience, and setups are different from pc to pc..
We NEED benchs with this feature turned off entirely.... Which cannot be done so i take nvidia 6xx reviews with a grain of salt..

The 670 runs at boost the entire if it's being stressed. It's not some 'very short lived experience.' The max boosted clocks are the actual clocks the card runs at the entire time when under load.
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The 670 runs at boost the entire if it's being stressed. It's not some 'very short lived experience.' The max boosted clocks are the actual clocks the card runs at the entire time when under load.

No. It depends in temps and the usage.If your max boost clocks are 1250 for example your card will never run full time at these clocks. For example there is some steps dependant to the temps. If your card hits 70 C which is highly possible throttles your card i think 20-50 mhz down. You must have the right temps and usage to hit max boost clocks
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