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Having a tough time finding any reviews for the galaxy GC edition other than egg TV

He does put light on some interesting features of this card as Galaxy is starting to make a mark in the industy with their last few OC edition cards

Still looking for info on the power delivery of this card to see if it makes sence for extreme use or is it just a hot rod gaming card

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckrojOZjLQY
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Reference 670's heatsink leaves a little something to be desired. If you can get your hands on a custom cooler, do so.
    
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Here's the simple equation:

The GTX680 has 14% more CUDA cores and Texture Units. Aside from that, if you choose a 670 built on a 680 PCB (of which there are quite a few that are known about right now, such as the Gigabyte OC, Asus DCII, and Zotac AMP), you are getting basically identical cards aside from those differences brought about by the disabled cluster.

Obviously there's going to also be (likely small) differences in OC ability based on the individual sample you receive, but I've certainly seen no evidence thus far that either the 670 or the 680 is the consistently faster OC'er, so you're basically at the whims of chance there.

So basically at equal clocks, the benefit you receive by getting the 680 is that you will get between 0 and 14% higher performance, depending upon how shader-limited you are in the particular frame being rendered. You can calculate the % price difference easily, and compare that to this performance difference, and reckon how 'worth it' that is to you, compared to current financial situation.

Personally right now funds are tight, so an extra 25% seems like a lot to pay for 0-14% performance, but I could easily see someone else (or myself if times were a little better in my house right now) thinking that's not such a bad deal as to be ridiculous or anything.

Lastly, I will say this ... a +/- 15% fps difference is just about the bare minimum difference a person can actually see with the naked eye. So if someone sat you down at two computers, one with each card, and told you to sit there and play a variety of games on each one (without FRAPS running) and decide which has the 670 and which has the 680 ... you probably would guess wrong nearly 50% of the time, because <15% is almost impossible to notice without running benchies or whatnot. On average across all games, at the same clocks, the 680 is probably only about 7% faster ... which is totally invisible to the naked eye.
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Just bought the 670SC. That is absolutely incredible Price/Performance compared to the 680.

In a nutshell, this
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Having a tough time finding any reviews for the galaxy GC edition other than egg TV
He does put light on some interesting features of this card as Galaxy is starting to make a mark in the industy with their last few OC edition cards
Still looking for info on the power delivery of this card to see if it makes sence for extreme use or is it just a hot rod gaming card
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckrojOZjLQY
Thanks for the info! If you could let us know if you find out anything more, it will be appreciated!

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Originally Posted by Axon14 View Post

Reference 670's heatsink leaves a little something to be desired. If you can get your hands on a custom cooler, do so.
Will definitely go for for a custom cooler/PCB, I'm personally not that impressed with the reference design (although a lot of that is based on my personal opinion).

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Originally Posted by brettjv View Post

Here's the simple equation:
The GTX680 has 14% more CUDA cores and Texture Units. Aside from that, if you choose a 670 built on a 680 PCB (of which there are quite a few that are known about right now, such as the Gigabyte OC, Asus DCII, and Zotac AMP), you are getting basically identical cards aside from those differences brought about by the disabled cluster.
Obviously there's going to also be (likely small) differences in OC ability based on the individual sample you receive, but I've certainly seen no evidence thus far that either the 670 or the 680 is the consistently faster OC'er, so you're basically at the whims of chance there.
So basically at equal clocks, the benefit you receive by getting the 680 is that you will get between 0 and 14% higher performance, depending upon how shader-limited you are in the particular frame being rendered. You can calculate the % price difference easily, and compare that to this performance difference, and reckon how 'worth it' that is to you, compared to current financial situation.
Personally right now funds are tight, so an extra 25% seems like a lot to pay for 0-14% performance, but I could easily see someone else (or myself if times were a little better in my house right now) thinking that's not such a bad deal as to be ridiculous or anything.
Lastly, I will say this ... a +/- 15% fps difference is just about the bare minimum difference a person can actually see with the naked eye. So if someone sat you down at two computers, one with each card, and told you to sit there and play a variety of games on each one (without FRAPS running) and decide which has the 670 and which has the 680 ... you probably would guess wrong nearly 50% of the time, because <15% is almost impossible to notice without running benchies or whatnot. On average across all games, at the same clocks, the 680 is probably only about 7% faster ... which is totally invisible to the naked eye.
Thanks for this scientific breakdown of what I'm spending money on wink.gif. Generally the difference is indeed quite small (while there are some exceptions, for instance the heaven benchmark: 13.5%). Since I'm probably going for DirectCU II anyway, I'll probably go for the 670 as it also has the benefits of being more quiet as well as being thinner (2 slots instead of 3). That might even be worth 7% performance in its own way... But still, if I spot the 680 (DirectCU II) in stock before the 670 here in the Netherlands I might change my mind all over again tongue.gif It still hurts my soul a little bit, going for the card that is not even the fastest while still spending a huge amount of money wink.gif
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If it helps you sleep at night I would just get the 680. If not then get a non reference 670. Either way you'll be happy with it. I went with a 680 only cause I got one for a good price off CL, and I am not looking back. biggrin.gif
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If money is a concern, Look for a gtx480 in Sli. You can get them for $450 total and they run everything maxed out at 1920x1200. If you game high then you might need more Vram.
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