Overclock.net › Forums › Cooling › Water Cooling › WC - Prebuilt vs Self Build
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

WC - Prebuilt vs Self Build

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
Morning all,

Im looking to buy a water cooler for my CPU, I was considering the 'pre built' Antec H20 620 at £45, or build something (with a similar budget), just a simple system, 120mm radiator and a cpu block?

please advise / reccomendations on products, im on AM3+ btw.

Tv
post #2 of 15
Depends on how much work you want to put into it, what kind of temps you want to see, and what you existing cooler was. Also the amount of money you want to spend is a factor, as well as your case.
Millenium Falcon
(24 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 4930k MSI Big Bang Xpower II EVGA GTX 690 Patriot Viper II Sector 7 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
OCZ Deneva 2 Corsair Force 3 Maxtor Western Digital Green 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Samsung BD/DVD-RW Swiftech MCP655 x2 Black Ice GTX 480 Black Ice GTX 280 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Alphacool Repack Dual D5 Watercool Heatkiller 3.0 Alphacool GTX 690 fullcover Bitspower Big Bang Xpower II fullcover 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 8.1 64-bit Professional 3x Dell S2340 Max Keyboard Durandal CoolerMaster V1000 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Azza Genesis 9000B Logitech G700 Roccat Alumic Onkyo HT-S9100THX 
  hide details  
Reply
Millenium Falcon
(24 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 4930k MSI Big Bang Xpower II EVGA GTX 690 Patriot Viper II Sector 7 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
OCZ Deneva 2 Corsair Force 3 Maxtor Western Digital Green 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Samsung BD/DVD-RW Swiftech MCP655 x2 Black Ice GTX 480 Black Ice GTX 280 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Alphacool Repack Dual D5 Watercool Heatkiller 3.0 Alphacool GTX 690 fullcover Bitspower Big Bang Xpower II fullcover 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 8.1 64-bit Professional 3x Dell S2340 Max Keyboard Durandal CoolerMaster V1000 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Azza Genesis 9000B Logitech G700 Roccat Alumic Onkyo HT-S9100THX 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3 of 15
Thread Starter 
I dont mind a bit of effort & experience

Currently seeing 67 on full load (amd fx4100)

Existing cooler is antec 7 pro
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/arctic-cooling-freezer-7-pro-v2-s775-1155-1156-1366-am3-am2plus-am2-939-up-to-130-watts

The amount of money can go up if the expected temperature reduction is great.

Thanks

Tv
post #4 of 15
The ones you build yourself will always perform better. The Antec Kuhler is a fine CPU cooler though and is maintenance free besides the occasional dusting.
Celerity
(20 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7-6850K @ 4.5GHz / 1.41v Asus X99 Deluxe II EVGA GTX 980 Ti Classified  Corsair Vengeance LPX 4x8GB 3000MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Samsung 850 Pro 256 GB Western Digital Purple 2TB XSPC Raystorm Pro XSPC RX 360 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
XSPC D5 Photon 170 Windows 7 Professional BenQ GW2765 ViewSonic XG2401 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Corsair Strafe RGB MX Silent EVGA SuperNOVA G2 750W Fractal Design Define S Logitech G900 
Mouse PadAudioAudioOther
SteelSeries QCK+ Sennheiser HD 598 FiiO E10K Cablemod Sleeved Cables (Black/White) 
  hide details  
Reply
Celerity
(20 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7-6850K @ 4.5GHz / 1.41v Asus X99 Deluxe II EVGA GTX 980 Ti Classified  Corsair Vengeance LPX 4x8GB 3000MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Samsung 850 Pro 256 GB Western Digital Purple 2TB XSPC Raystorm Pro XSPC RX 360 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
XSPC D5 Photon 170 Windows 7 Professional BenQ GW2765 ViewSonic XG2401 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Corsair Strafe RGB MX Silent EVGA SuperNOVA G2 750W Fractal Design Define S Logitech G900 
Mouse PadAudioAudioOther
SteelSeries QCK+ Sennheiser HD 598 FiiO E10K Cablemod Sleeved Cables (Black/White) 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5 of 15
Thread Starter 
Case is Zalman Z9
http://www.zalman.com/eng/product/Product_Read.asp?idx=422

...I dont believe it would be able to facilitate anything more than a 120.

Tv
post #6 of 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by TecnoViking View Post

Case is Zalman Z9
http://www.zalman.com/eng/product/Product_Read.asp?idx=422
...I dont believe it would be able to facilitate anything more than a 120.
Tv

If you were to get a RX120 radiator with some quality tubing + good pump I'd be willing to bet you'd see an 7C - 10C difference compared to the antec unit assuming you use a decent fan.
Celerity
(20 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7-6850K @ 4.5GHz / 1.41v Asus X99 Deluxe II EVGA GTX 980 Ti Classified  Corsair Vengeance LPX 4x8GB 3000MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Samsung 850 Pro 256 GB Western Digital Purple 2TB XSPC Raystorm Pro XSPC RX 360 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
XSPC D5 Photon 170 Windows 7 Professional BenQ GW2765 ViewSonic XG2401 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Corsair Strafe RGB MX Silent EVGA SuperNOVA G2 750W Fractal Design Define S Logitech G900 
Mouse PadAudioAudioOther
SteelSeries QCK+ Sennheiser HD 598 FiiO E10K Cablemod Sleeved Cables (Black/White) 
  hide details  
Reply
Celerity
(20 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7-6850K @ 4.5GHz / 1.41v Asus X99 Deluxe II EVGA GTX 980 Ti Classified  Corsair Vengeance LPX 4x8GB 3000MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Samsung 850 Pro 256 GB Western Digital Purple 2TB XSPC Raystorm Pro XSPC RX 360 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
XSPC D5 Photon 170 Windows 7 Professional BenQ GW2765 ViewSonic XG2401 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Corsair Strafe RGB MX Silent EVGA SuperNOVA G2 750W Fractal Design Define S Logitech G900 
Mouse PadAudioAudioOther
SteelSeries QCK+ Sennheiser HD 598 FiiO E10K Cablemod Sleeved Cables (Black/White) 
  hide details  
Reply
post #7 of 15
Any air cooler will perform decently, and in most cases the best best air coolers can even perform against a common closed-loop water cooler. I think the main reason the H100 from Corsair stands out is because it's the only one I know of that provides a 240mm radiator.

But the logical upgrade from a closed-loop WC setup is to do it yourself, a custom loop. Practically the same as a closed-loop one, except in this case you can choose the parts yourself, and make sure they're better than the cloosed-loop parts. smile.gif
 
BloodFury Build
(30 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7 3930K @ 4.7GHz ASUS Rampage IV Extreme ASUS Radeon HD7970 ASUS Radeon HD7970 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Corsair 32GB 2133MHz DDR3 RAM WD Caviar Green 3TB x4 - 12TB WD My Book 3TB WD My Book 2TB x2 - 4TB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
Crucial M4 512GB External optical drive Swiftech MCR420-QP 480 Radiator Yate Loon D12SL-12 1350RPM x15 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Alphacool VPP655 -T12 x2 Alphacool Repack - Dual Laing D5 - Dual 5,25 Ba... DangerDen Delrin 90° G1/4 connector EK-FB KIT RE4 - Acetal+Nickel EN 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
EK-FC Bridge DUAL Parallel EK-FC7970 - Nickel EN Acetal x2 EK-FC7970 Backplate - Black x2 EK-VGA I/O bracket HD7970 x2 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Feser Tube UV - HighFlow - 3/8 ID - 1/2 OD - BLACK Lamptron FC9 Fan Controller 4-channel 50W FC-9-... Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Samsung Syncmaster S27A750D x2 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
IIYAMA G2773HDS-GB1 LG 37LF2500 Razer Blackwidow Ultimate Corsair AX1200W 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Mountain Mods Ascension Razer Mamba Razer Goliathus Extended Control Edition ASUS ROG Phoebus 9.1 Soundcard 
AudioAudioOther
CM Storm Sirus 5.1 Headset Teufel Concept E 400 Digital Media 5.1 Surround... Canon MG6250 MultiFunctional Printer 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3930K C2 @4.7GHz ASUS Rampage IV Extreme/BF3 ASUS Radeon HD 7970 12GB Corsair Dominator 1600MHz memory 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Crucial M4 128GB 7 TB External HDDs 2.2 TB HDDs in Raid0 Black Ice GT Stealth 360 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Swiftech Apogee HD 7x Yate Loon D12SL-12 XSPC X2O 750 Dual Bay Reservoir+Pump Phobya Nano-G 14 Silent Waterproof 140mm - 1000rpm 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
10MM (3/8) Compression Fitting Gripz Style - G1... PVC Tube 3/8 ID (10mm ID -13 mm OD ) - 2 meter ... Windows 7 Ultimate LG 37LF2500 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G15 Corsair HW 750W Cooler Master Cosmos II Razer Naga 
Mouse PadAudioOtherOther
Steelseries SK Gaming Mouse Pad Creative HS 1200 NZXT 12x Red LED Sleeve - 1M NZXT 12x Red LED Sleeve - 1M 
OtherOtherOtherOther
BitFenix PCIe 6-Pin to 6-Pin Cable - 45 cm - Pr... BitFenix USB 2.0 internal extension - 30 cm - P... BitFenix PCIe 8-Pin to 8-Pin Cable - 45 cm - Pr... Sweex US011 4-poorts USB Hub 
OtherOther
3-Pin Splitter naar 4x 3-Pin Fan - Sleeved UVRe... BitFenix Molex to 3x Molex 55cm - Premium Sleev... 
  hide details  
Reply
 
BloodFury Build
(30 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7 3930K @ 4.7GHz ASUS Rampage IV Extreme ASUS Radeon HD7970 ASUS Radeon HD7970 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Corsair 32GB 2133MHz DDR3 RAM WD Caviar Green 3TB x4 - 12TB WD My Book 3TB WD My Book 2TB x2 - 4TB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
Crucial M4 512GB External optical drive Swiftech MCR420-QP 480 Radiator Yate Loon D12SL-12 1350RPM x15 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Alphacool VPP655 -T12 x2 Alphacool Repack - Dual Laing D5 - Dual 5,25 Ba... DangerDen Delrin 90° G1/4 connector EK-FB KIT RE4 - Acetal+Nickel EN 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
EK-FC Bridge DUAL Parallel EK-FC7970 - Nickel EN Acetal x2 EK-FC7970 Backplate - Black x2 EK-VGA I/O bracket HD7970 x2 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Feser Tube UV - HighFlow - 3/8 ID - 1/2 OD - BLACK Lamptron FC9 Fan Controller 4-channel 50W FC-9-... Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Samsung Syncmaster S27A750D x2 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
IIYAMA G2773HDS-GB1 LG 37LF2500 Razer Blackwidow Ultimate Corsair AX1200W 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Mountain Mods Ascension Razer Mamba Razer Goliathus Extended Control Edition ASUS ROG Phoebus 9.1 Soundcard 
AudioAudioOther
CM Storm Sirus 5.1 Headset Teufel Concept E 400 Digital Media 5.1 Surround... Canon MG6250 MultiFunctional Printer 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3930K C2 @4.7GHz ASUS Rampage IV Extreme/BF3 ASUS Radeon HD 7970 12GB Corsair Dominator 1600MHz memory 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Crucial M4 128GB 7 TB External HDDs 2.2 TB HDDs in Raid0 Black Ice GT Stealth 360 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Swiftech Apogee HD 7x Yate Loon D12SL-12 XSPC X2O 750 Dual Bay Reservoir+Pump Phobya Nano-G 14 Silent Waterproof 140mm - 1000rpm 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
10MM (3/8) Compression Fitting Gripz Style - G1... PVC Tube 3/8 ID (10mm ID -13 mm OD ) - 2 meter ... Windows 7 Ultimate LG 37LF2500 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G15 Corsair HW 750W Cooler Master Cosmos II Razer Naga 
Mouse PadAudioOtherOther
Steelseries SK Gaming Mouse Pad Creative HS 1200 NZXT 12x Red LED Sleeve - 1M NZXT 12x Red LED Sleeve - 1M 
OtherOtherOtherOther
BitFenix PCIe 6-Pin to 6-Pin Cable - 45 cm - Pr... BitFenix USB 2.0 internal extension - 30 cm - P... BitFenix PCIe 8-Pin to 8-Pin Cable - 45 cm - Pr... Sweex US011 4-poorts USB Hub 
OtherOther
3-Pin Splitter naar 4x 3-Pin Fan - Sleeved UVRe... BitFenix Molex to 3x Molex 55cm - Premium Sleev... 
  hide details  
Reply
post #8 of 15
There are kits that are pretty easy but give much better performance than something like the enclosed loop products you mention. I have an H80 right now, and it fine, cooling performance is pretty good but not compared to a custom loop or even many kits.

I'm sure people here can recommend good kits.
SBD:
(18 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-3770k Gigabyte ga-z77x-up4 tb EVGA GTX 980 SC 32GB G.SKILL Trident X F3-1600C7Q-32GTX  
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD Western Digtal 2TB RE4 Plextor 24x DL Burner ThermalTake Water 2.0 Extreme 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 7 Pro 64-bit Acer XB270HU 2560x1440, IPS-type panel, 144hz, ... EIZO FG2421 1920x1080 VA 120Hz QuickFire Cherry Blue 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Lepa G1000 1kw Corsair 550D Logitech G400 Roccat Taito 
AudioAudio
Xonar Essence ST Niles SI-275 Amplifier 
  hide details  
Reply
SBD:
(18 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-3770k Gigabyte ga-z77x-up4 tb EVGA GTX 980 SC 32GB G.SKILL Trident X F3-1600C7Q-32GTX  
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD Western Digtal 2TB RE4 Plextor 24x DL Burner ThermalTake Water 2.0 Extreme 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 7 Pro 64-bit Acer XB270HU 2560x1440, IPS-type panel, 144hz, ... EIZO FG2421 1920x1080 VA 120Hz QuickFire Cherry Blue 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Lepa G1000 1kw Corsair 550D Logitech G400 Roccat Taito 
AudioAudio
Xonar Essence ST Niles SI-275 Amplifier 
  hide details  
Reply
post #9 of 15
I'm almost certain you could fit at least a 120 + a 240 into that case if you wanted to get creative about it. Would obviously cost more than a closed loop prebuilt though.

Also keep in mind you can always have liquid cooling components external to the case itself. The only parts that actually NEED to be inside are the waterblocks and the tubes connecting them.
Arcane
(33 items)
 
Sanctum
(9 items)
 
Fukurou
(15 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Ryzen 7 1700 MSI B350M Mortar Arctic RX Vega 64 G.Skill TridentZ  
Hard DriveHard DriveOSPower
Samsung EVO 960 Consatellation Windows 10 Pro Corsair HX 1050 
Case
Raijintek Aeneas White Window 
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
Core i5-661 GA-H55-USB3 12GB DDR3 1333 WD Caviar Black AALS 640GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
WD Caviar Green EARS 2TB Vertex Turbo 60GB (SSD) Samsung Blu-ray, Samsung DVD Burner H50 (With push/pull nocturas) 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 Professional 64 LG 47inch LED LCD Saitek Eclipse Lite-touch Wireless Seasonic X750 Gold 
CaseAudio
CM690 II Passive bookshelfspeakers + amp. 
  hide details  
Reply
Arcane
(33 items)
 
Sanctum
(9 items)
 
Fukurou
(15 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Ryzen 7 1700 MSI B350M Mortar Arctic RX Vega 64 G.Skill TridentZ  
Hard DriveHard DriveOSPower
Samsung EVO 960 Consatellation Windows 10 Pro Corsair HX 1050 
Case
Raijintek Aeneas White Window 
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
Core i5-661 GA-H55-USB3 12GB DDR3 1333 WD Caviar Black AALS 640GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
WD Caviar Green EARS 2TB Vertex Turbo 60GB (SSD) Samsung Blu-ray, Samsung DVD Burner H50 (With push/pull nocturas) 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 Professional 64 LG 47inch LED LCD Saitek Eclipse Lite-touch Wireless Seasonic X750 Gold 
CaseAudio
CM690 II Passive bookshelfspeakers + amp. 
  hide details  
Reply
post #10 of 15
Thread Starter 
Ahh I suppose I could mount the radiator externally, there are two holes in the back of the case with gromits that could facilitate the two tubes

http://www.zalman.com/images/productinfo/Z9_01.jpg

I think a kit might be the way the go! cheers for the info so far eriibody
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Water Cooling
Overclock.net › Forums › Cooling › Water Cooling › WC - Prebuilt vs Self Build