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Dungeon Siege 3's story is fantastic, but it takes a while for it to sink in because of the linear gameplay style of DS3. BUT, if you only play for the storyline, you'll definitely enjoy that aspect of it.
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And I don't know how you would consider Starcraft or Warcraft, which are RTS games, grindfests. Those aren't even in a similar genre as WoW or Diablo.

If you read the title it was story based pc game, not a particular genre. Even racing games can have a story line. All games are a grind fest,
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There is a zombie game called The walking dead and episode 1 is out and there is to be 6 total I do believe. It is like controlling a movie with the decisions you make like which person to save and what to say in different situations. Don't know if someones mentioned it yet but I really liked episode 1 and patiently wait for episode 2.

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There is a zombie game called The walking dead and episode 1 is out and there is to be 6 total I do believe. It is like controlling a movie with the decisions you make like which person to save and what to say in different situations. Don't know if someones mentioned it yet but I really liked episode 1 and patiently wait for episode 2.
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Sounds like an animated movie that came out several years ago where your choices changed the outcome of the movie and I believe there were 4 alternate story changes.
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If you read the title it was story based pc game, not a particular genre. Even racing games can have a story line. All games are a grind fest,

Real time strategy games in general lack a story. They're much more about scenario/setting and game mechanics. I would argue that Blizzard RTS's have much more story than other RTS titles.

Everybody has different definitions of words. But to me, a grind refers to a RPG style game where you repeat an action over and over working slowly toward a goal. Skill becomes less of a factor, and time invested is the real winning attribute. Most RTS or FPS games don't have the same kind of progression as RPG games like experience and gear.

If all games were repetitive grindfests then I would've stopped playing them a long time ago.
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pretty much all the interplay/troika games had great stories. even lionheart had an interesting story, despite the game being kinda boring

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Gotta give you credit for listing two of my favorite devs(RIP)... Though it bears mentioning that ToEE, while a great(perhaps one of if not the best) TB RPG, is a far cry from a good story driven game. Troika also produced one of my favorite aRPGs, which coincidentally has/d a good story, Vampire: the Masquerade - Bloodlines(combat - aside from some nifty vamp powers - can be bad; I think some fan made mods and patches have improved it somewhat). Also, Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura is another great Troika title with a solid story(again clunky combat).

Anyhoo, in an attempt to give an original suggestion, I will refrain from repeating any other previously mentioned games...


My vote goes to -> Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer.

Of course any valid discussion of "best story driven game" is predicated upon what one considers paramount to a story driven game... Games are an interactive medium, thus I believe that an interactive/reactive narrative is key. Ultimately, that means the PC(player character or if you wish "actor") can affect or alter the plot and/or narrative; oh and conversely, the reactive narrative/plot should in some way affect or alter the PC. Player agency constitutes a huge role in an engaging interactive/reactive narrative. Now some people feel the exact opposite, a good example of this would be the game Heavy Rain, which is quite nearly an interactive movie with some minor trappings of game elements. The argument basically boils down to linearity vs nonlinearity, ranging from interactive movie to emergent narrative/gameplay.
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MAX PAYNE 1 & 2 ! . . . M P 3 ?

zelda ocarina of time

FF7

ALAN WAKE (expected more for some reason but still loved it)


Not sure how this would fit in but I loved Fallout 2 at the time !

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COSMO's COSMIC ADVENTURE !

COMMANDER KEEN !

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yeah I bought the first episode on xbox and I never buy gamer points but it looked interesting . I enjoyed it and will most likely buy the next episode and well see from there. I think it was like 5$ and I replayed it 3 times to get a final outcome I liked. They are supposedly releasing one episode a month though so who knows what I will be doing then haha
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Planescape: Torment. So many RPGs today are just content with the standard "kill bad guys to save the world!" stuff.
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Planescape Torment
You can thank me later.
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Planescape: Torment
Baldur's Gate 2
The Longest Journey

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Planescape Torment.

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Just wanted to be the fifteenth to recommend Planescape: Torment. Great story, great atmosphere, great gameplay. Of course, the graphics are going to be a little flat (the game is over a decade old) but everything else about it is so over the top that you forget the graphics after a while. It's available at gog.com as well, just 10 bucks.

+1 to all of these!
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Gotta give you credit for listing two of my favorite devs(RIP)... Though it bears mentioning that ToEE, while a great(perhaps one of if not the best) TB RPG, is a far cry from a good story driven game. Troika also produced one of my favorite aRPGs, which coincidentally has/d a good story, Vampire: the Masquerade - Bloodlines(combat - aside from some nifty vamp powers - can be bad; I think some fan made mods and patches have improved it somewhat). Also, Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura is another great Troika title with a solid story(again clunky combat).
Anyhoo, in an attempt to give an original suggestion, I will refrain from repeating any other previously mentioned games...
My vote goes to -> Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer.
Of course any valid discussion of "best story driven game" is predicated upon what one considers paramount to a story driven game... Games are an interactive medium, thus I believe that an interactive/reactive narrative is key. Ultimately, that means the PC(player character or if you wish "actor") can affect or alter the plot and/or narrative; oh and conversely, the reactive narrative/plot should in some way affect or alter the PC. Player agency constitutes a huge role in an engaging interactive/reactive narrative. Now some people feel the exact opposite, a good example of this would be the game Heavy Rain, which is quite nearly an interactive movie with some minor trappings of game elements. The argument basically boils down to linearity vs nonlinearity, ranging from interactive movie to emergent narrative/gameplay.

ahh a codexer, lovely smile.gif

i remember toee mostly for the combat system and engine which, imo, was a huge step up from real time + pause combat of the infinity engine (even though i enjoyed that too.) i cant shake the feeling of boredom i got from the quests though. for me, games like fallout and vtm with grittiness and american humour and language etc are much more fun to experience than the typical DnD faerun interpretations.

i agree with you on bloodlines, overall i think it was a great game but i was a bit disappointment with the way they implemented the disciplines. coming from the pen and paper world of darkness games, alot of the disciplines were pretty watered down in the video game. the thaumaturgy selections were boring and half of the other disciplines were just converted into passive, time-based skills (fortitude, protean, auspex, presence, potence blah blah.) i really feel that, given more time, they couldve fleshed these out further, especially a discipline like auspex, which was sooo versatile in the PnP game (perhaps stuff to do with quests, or circumventing persuasion etc.) i havent played any mods, but id also like to see the ability to adopt other disciplines outside of the clan-specific ones.
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