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Nah Sony has been bleeding money for a while. The company is not just taking losses anymore they have structural problems. They can come back don't get me wrong but they have big issues.
    
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Their super high end Bravia's - the ones most people can't afford as they cost upwards for $10,000 are some of the best money can buy. Sadly though as you said, you can buy comparable TV's from other companies at a fraction of the cost and they have excellent quality. Samsung is my favorite when it comes to LCD tv's. I remember their CRT's,, man those were the days, no one on the planet could even compare to a Trinitron tube. God I miss those days.

If I could afford that TV then there would be many other things I would rather get, and if it was going to be spent on a display it would be a DLP projector for my own movie theater and the 10k TV would go on my Boeing business 747-800. At consumer level every Sony TV I saw on the lineup when a couple years ago when deciding on a Samsung 8000 series looked like garbage, and Vizeo was even better than Sony to me. So I have to say I'm not surprised.
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It's kinda funny that for the last decade I really started developing a pretty strong hatred against Sony, which apparently is nearly right in line with when they started going down the drain.

Ironically due to my love of deep blacks and contrast ratios, I've ended up using Sony Trinitron CRTs to hold me over until OLED. lachen.gif The fact that they STILL work great (an SDTV and a monitor) shows they were not made by the same Sony we know today.
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Great TVs, Great Notebooks.
Can't beat VPC-SA13&SE15 models.
15" model with fullhd ips screen & i7 cpu & alu case & amd6630 & less than 2kg = 1000 EUR . Yes Please!
13" - can't find anything comparable on the market.
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Nothing lasts forever, especially when you bring nothing new to the table and over value your products. They had their day in the sun and the lack of effort and innovation finally caught up with them while they over stayed their vacation.
    
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post #46 of 53
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Originally Posted by stargate125645 View Post

Actually, their high end TVs are still some of the best available. Price of lesser competitors combined with lack of knowledge from the general consumer about new technology will result in this type of situation.
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Originally Posted by drbaltazar View Post

men this is sad!sony make some good tv in japan!true there a lot of them maker in japan!but still japan tv are way better then korean tv!

What? Their "high end" XBR tv's don't compare to the likes of LG or Samsung in regards to picture quality. Not to mention their massive 2" bezels and [bias] iPad-looking Google Smart TV with the gorgeous white back panel [/bias]. Sony's biggest mistake was selling their stake in the SLCD plant to Samsung. They are outsourcing their LCD panels to Foxconn and Wistron(Taiwanese companies), two companies I don't think of when searching for a quality televition. My roommate is a die hard Sony fan. We're both cable technicians for Comcast so we deal with a wide variety of televisions all day every day. Even he admits Sony TV's don't have the same look and subversivenessas Samsung TV's. They're losing their grasp on the market, deny that all you want, their financial books don't lie. Nine straight years of loses for their television department.
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good that's what they get for being such proprietary asses.
Their Camera spits proprietary RAW image type, I remember their old Walkman need some bullcrap ATRAC3 format. And now their PS Vita needs some bullcrap $100 proprietary SD Card. Companies like this will never learn. You can't Trick people with your "SONY" branding anymore. People are just not willing to pay a premium for your overpriced products.
Apple is heading down this same road...and one day it'll become just like SONY a company that sells overpriced proprietary crap that no one wants to buy.
I hope Sony and all other companies that think strategically like it fail miserably

They got cocky. Sony should've stopped with the proprietary hardware when they struck gold with Bluray over HD-DVD. You can't expect to successfully reinvent the wheel every time you try. Apple is the next company to follow Sony's cocky business model.
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Funny those of you that hate Sony and favor Samsung. I hate both Samsung displays Ive purchased in the last year. 32" LCD TV has horrid speakers, lack of inputs and already has a failing sound output jack and the 23" LCD Monitor buzzes if the brightness is set under 85%.
My 4 year old 32" Sony Bravia LCD TV kicks the ever loving crap out of that Samsung TV in every possible way.
Ive been mostly very pleased with every Sony purchase Ive made over the last 20 years.
Wish I never bothered with Samsung.

That is funny. My roommate and I both buy TV's at the same time. Each time I buy Samsung, he buys Sony. We've gone from 32" 60hz LCD, to 46" 120hz LCD, 46" 120hz LED-LCD, and we just recently bought 55" 240hz 3D LED-LCD TVs. He returned his 32" twice. First time was for a defective HDMI port and the second time it was for a flickering picture. He lucked out with his first 46", but had to return his 46" LED-LCD because the back panel died. So far our 55"ers are only a couple months old, but in the past 4 years he's returned 3 Sony TV's to my 0 returns of Samsung.
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The funniest part is they spent the better part of 30 years trying to claim proprietary style after proprietary style. Betamax, minidisc, mem sticks, etc, etc.
Hopefully apple is headed down this same path

Agree'd. I'm not a fan of Apple solely because of that.
Edited by tbris84 - 5/11/12 at 5:44pm
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Originally Posted by stargate125645 View Post

Actually, their high end TVs are still some of the best available. Price of lesser competitors combined with lack of knowledge from the general consumer about new technology will result in this type of situation.
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Originally Posted by drbaltazar View Post

men this is sad!sony make some good tv in japan!true there a lot of them maker in japan!but still japan tv are way better then korean tv!

What? Their "high end" XBR tv's don't compare to the likes of LG or Samsung. Sony's biggest mistake was selling their stake in the SLCD plant to Samsung. They are outsourcing their LCD panels to Foxconn and Wistron(Taiwanese companies), to companies I don't think of when searching for a quality televition. My roommate is a die hard Sony fan. We're both cable technicians for Comcast so we deal with a wide variety of televisions all day every day. Even he admits Sony TV's don't have the same look and submersive, "real" feel as Samsung TV's. They're losing their grasp on the market, deny that all you want, their financial books don't lie. Nine straight years of loses for their television department.
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Originally Posted by shiftwig113 View Post

good that's what they get for being such proprietary asses.
Their Camera spits proprietary RAW image type, I remember their old Walkman need some bullcrap ATRAC3 format. And now their PS Vita needs some bullcrap $100 proprietary SD Card. Companies like this will never learn. You can't Trick people with your "SONY" branding anymore. People are just not willing to pay a premium for your overpriced products.
Apple is heading down this same road...and one day it'll become just like SONY a company that sells overpriced proprietary crap that no one wants to buy.
I hope Sony and all other companies that think strategically like it fail miserably

They got cocky. Sony should've stopped with the proprietary hardware when they struck gold with Bluray over HD-DVD. You can't expect to successfully reinvent the wheel every time you try. Apple is the next company to follow Sony's cocky business model.
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Originally Posted by Captain318 View Post

Funny those of you that hate Sony and favor Samsung. I hate both Samsung displays Ive purchased in the last year. 32" LCD TV has horrid speakers, lack of inputs and already has a failing sound output jack and the 23" LCD Monitor buzzes if the brightness is set under 85%.
My 4 year old 32" Sony Bravia LCD TV kicks the ever loving crap out of that Samsung TV in every possible way.
Ive been mostly very pleased with every Sony purchase Ive made over the last 20 years.
Wish I never bothered with Samsung.

That is funny. My roommate and I both buy TV's at the same time. Each time I buy Samsung, he buys Sony. We've gone from 32" 60hz LCD, to 46" 120hz LCD, 46" 120hz LED-LCD, and we just recently bought 55" 240hz 3D LED-LCD TVs. He returned his 32" twice. First time was for a defective HDMI port and the second time it was for a flickering picture. He lucked out with his first 46", but had to return his 46" LED-LCD because the back panel died. So far our 55"ers are only a couple months old, but in the past 4 years he's returned 3 Sony TV's to my 0 returns of Samsung.
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Originally Posted by FuNkDrSpOt View Post

The funniest part is they spent the better part of 30 years trying to claim proprietary style after proprietary style. Betamax, minidisc, mem sticks, etc, etc.
Hopefully apple is headed down this same path

Agree'd. I'm not a fan of Apple solely because of that.
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On another, semi-related topic, I hope Asus' decision to quit manufacturing motherboards in order to compete more directly with HP and Dell doesn't bite them in the ass like Sony's similar LCD panel decision has bitten them. I love Asus, I hope they don't do a death spiral.
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Originally Posted by DoomDash View Post

Sony makes some of the best gaming hardware and most importantly exclusives out there. Would be a real shame if they don't turn it around. So many great games and franchises originated on Sony consoles.
Already got 11 games for my Vita and I love the thing to death, not to mention my PS3 collection is huge smile.gif. I can't imagine the gaming world with out Sony anymore, would be depressing.

I've lived my life without a console, and will never need one.

I don't care about Sony's loss, they've been making overpriced crap for long enough. And I've never been dumb enough to buy any of those at market prices. Only bought a Sony HT for my relatives (that sucked as well) when it was on a clearance sale.
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Sony had a few flops with BMG, laptop batteries, PSN (Play Station Network). It also tried to compete in too many markets - audio equipment, cameras - with mediocre results. Moreover, their overpriced, proprietary accessories are a nuissance - if I lose my camera's SD card, I want to be able to buy one in the first electronics store or department, for example.
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