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The problem is that the PC double XP Weekend has been canceled for this weekend and rescheduled for may 26-27 while consoles are enjoining it.
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EDIT: it seems DICE found out the problem: http://i.imgur.com/EIjR3.png

Big deal? They said they're giving the developers two weeks to get the game running correctly for PC users, so I can only assume that they have a patch planned (M26 fix?) and they want to release it before they do a double XP event on PC.

Honestly, the only thing I can see being upset about is Battlefield Premium, and even then it's not that big of a deal. It's supposed to be a bunch of aesthetic stuff that has no real effect on game-play. It's not going to give premium users any form upper-hand and it's certainly not going to split the community like CoD Elite does.

As for DLC.. Why are people so upset about this? They're expansion packs.. They're adding more content and it's no different from BF2 expansion packs. Why are we expecting to get the stuff for free? It's like the moment it gets titled DLC it's automatically a bad thing.

Just want to say.. Another DLC would just make me that much more happy. It means they plan on supporting the game for even longer. I was sad when I heard End-game thinking that would be the last of it.
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I agree. The more the better. This is a great game and the more expansions they release, the more fun I'll have with it. ~130 hours in multiplayer and still not bored. Looking forward to the DLC.
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Big deal? They said they're giving the developers two weeks to get the game running correctly for PC users, so I can only assume that they have a patch planned (M26 fix?) and they want to release it before they do a double XP event on PC.
Honestly, the only thing I can see being upset about is Battlefield Premium, and even then it's not that big of a deal. It's supposed to be a bunch of aesthetic stuff that has no real effect on game-play. It's not going to give premium users any form upper-hand and it's certainly not going to split the community like CoD Elite does.
As for DLC.. Why are people so upset about this? They're expansion packs.. They're adding more content and it's no different from BF2 expansion packs. Why are we expecting to get the stuff for free? It's like the moment it gets titled DLC it's automatically a bad thing.
Just want to say.. Another DLC would just make me that much more happy. It means they plan on supporting the game for even longer. I was sad when I heard End-game thinking that would be the last of it.

People aren't disappointed that DLCs exist. We're disappointed that they offer less and less content for higher and higher prices. In many instances, things that used to be common features of free patches are now being sold as DLCs for 20 bucks or more.

Furthermore, all this focus on making new content that can be sold as a DLC distracts developers from addressing the real issues that should have and would have been patched by now had they not been so steadily pumping out new stuff for us to buy.

You say it's no different than BF2's "expansions. BF2 has ONE expansion. It was a total-conversion that pretty much was a second game all together. It has two "booster packs" which you could equate to modern day DLCs - and even then those booster packs had far more content than the karkand DLC has for BF3. The total cost of all 3 of these additional items combined was 35 bucks - roughly half the cost of the original game. By the time BF3 is done with it's DLC frenzy, it still won't be anywhere near the content added to BF2 and it will have cost more than double the game itself. Never mind the fact that BF2 was modifiable and therefore the expansion/boosterpacks were entirely optional ways of getting additional content where as in BF3, they're the ONLY method.

I have no problem paying a moderate amount of money for a true "expansion" which offers significant content to an already-working game. I DO have issue paying more than the cost of the game itself, for a tiny update that still fails to address the core issues of the game.




To look at it another way, would you pay your MOBO manufacturer for a add-in card that magically gives your CPU the ability to overclock twice as high with no issues? Of course you would. Would you pay them for a BIOS update that unlocks higher numbers for all your settings, even though you're already getting BSOD on mild overclocks and your SATA ports keep bugging out? Hell no.
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People aren't disappointed that DLCs exist. We're disappointed that they offer less and less content for higher and higher prices. In many instances, things that used to be common features of free patches are now being sold as DLCs for 20 bucks or more.
It seems $15 will be the typical price for these packs and they offer a little more content than BF2's smaller packs which were $10..
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Furthermore, all this focus on making new content that can be sold as a DLC distracts developers from addressing the real issues that should have and would have been patched by now had they not been so steadily pumping out new stuff for us to buy.
Don't most developers split up into different teams to cover different aspects of the game? I believe that is the case with DICE (I do recall seeing them saying something like that). One is working on new content, another working on maintaining the game.
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You say it's no different than BF2's "expansions. BF2 has ONE expansion. It was a total-conversion that pretty much was a second game all together. It has two "booster packs" which you could equate to modern day DLCs - and even then those booster packs had far more content than the karkand DLC has for BF3. The total cost of all 3 of these additional items combined was 35 bucks - roughly half the cost of the original game. By the time BF3 is done with it's DLC frenzy, it still won't be anywhere near the content added to BF2 and it will have cost more than double the game itself. Never mind the fact that BF2 was modifiable and therefore the expansion/boosterpacks were entirely optional ways of getting additional content where as in BF3, they're the ONLY method.
One offered 3 new maps, 7 weapons and 4 vehicles, the other added 3 maps and a bunch of new vehicles. Karkand added 4 maps, 10 weapons, and 3 vehicles. Wasn't the combined cost of all of the packs $50? (the special forces pack was $30, no?)
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I have no problem paying a moderate amount of money for a true "expansion" which offers significant content to an already-working game. I DO have issue paying more than the cost of the game itself, for a tiny update that still fails to address the core issues of the game.
Doubling the amount of content isn't really a "tiny update."

The core issues that most people seem to point out are either highly exaggerated or just plain unreasonable. Usually both.

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To look at it another way, would you pay your MOBO manufacturer for a add-in card that magically gives your CPU the ability to overclock twice as high with no issues? Of course you would. Would you pay them for a BIOS update that unlocks higher numbers for all your settings, even though you're already getting BSOD on mild overclocks and your SATA ports keep bugging out? Hell no.
Bad analogy. Seems to be a popular thing on OCN.
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Damn you EA, "Battlefield Premium"?? mad.gif
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Not upset here, not one bit. As long as they are giving opportunities and not taking them away I do not care.
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Not upset here, not one bit. As long as they are giving opportunities and not taking them away I do not care.

The cynic in me says that's probably not going to happen. Eventually the pay-to-play dam will break.
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People aren't disappointed that DLCs exist. We're disappointed that they offer less and less content for higher and higher prices. In many instances, things that used to be common features of free patches are now being sold as DLCs for 20 bucks or more.
Furthermore, all this focus on making new content that can be sold as a DLC distracts developers from addressing the real issues that should have and would have been patched by now had they not been so steadily pumping out new stuff for us to buy.
You say it's no different than BF2's "expansions. BF2 has ONE expansion. It was a total-conversion that pretty much was a second game all together. It has two "booster packs" which you could equate to modern day DLCs - and even then those booster packs had far more content than the karkand DLC has for BF3. The total cost of all 3 of these additional items combined was 35 bucks - roughly half the cost of the original game. By the time BF3 is done with it's DLC frenzy, it still won't be anywhere near the content added to BF2 and it will have cost more than double the game itself. Never mind the fact that BF2 was modifiable and therefore the expansion/boosterpacks were entirely optional ways of getting additional content where as in BF3, they're the ONLY method.
I have no problem paying a moderate amount of money for a true "expansion" which offers significant content to an already-working game. I DO have issue paying more than the cost of the game itself, for a tiny update that still fails to address the core issues of the game.
To look at it another way, would you pay your MOBO manufacturer for a add-in card that magically gives your CPU the ability to overclock twice as high with no issues? Of course you would. Would you pay them for a BIOS update that unlocks higher numbers for all your settings, even though you're already getting BSOD on mild overclocks and your SATA ports keep bugging out? Hell no.

LOL your fully changing the prices and value of the past and current dlc/xpacks

special forces cost 30$ on release and each booster pack cost 10$, how does 30+10+10= 35? More like 50$

While each dlc in bf3 costs 15$ not 20$, I already preordered cqc for 12$ from green man gaming, since I enjoy the game immensely but I am just bored of the maps 12$ is nothing.

Also Special forces offered 8 maps, 3 new vehicles, and maybe 7 new guns for 30$, while karkand offered 10 new guns, 3 new vehicles and 4 new maps for 15$ (for those who didnt preorder), cqc offers 10 new weapons and 4 maps for 15$ but im sure armored kill will have all that plus new vehicles. The bf2 booster packs just offered 3 new maps and 6 new vehicles and no guns for 10$. To me the price to value offered seems around the same, but just because it has the word dlc in it people trying to make it seem that bf2 dlc offered way more.
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Big deal? They said they're giving the developers two weeks to get the game running correctly for PC users, so I can only assume that they have a patch planned (M26 fix?) and they want to release it before they do a double XP event on PC.
Honestly, the only thing I can see being upset about is Battlefield Premium, and even then it's not that big of a deal. It's supposed to be a bunch of aesthetic stuff that has no real effect on game-play. It's not going to give premium users any form upper-hand and it's certainly not going to split the community like CoD Elite does.
As for DLC.. Why are people so upset about this? They're expansion packs.. They're adding more content and it's no different from BF2 expansion packs. Why are we expecting to get the stuff for free? It's like the moment it gets titled DLC it's automatically a bad thing.
Just want to say.. Another DLC would just make me that much more happy. It means they plan on supporting the game for even longer. I was sad when I heard End-game thinking that would be the last of it.

Nope, they're not expansion packs. They're DLC.
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