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Reference AMD cards are usually slightly louder and cooler than nvidia cards, at least that is what I've seen. The coolers aren't bad, Nvidia's driver team is just more comfortable with higher temps than AMD's, I guess.
Easily fixed with MSI afterburner + custom fan profile.
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I've been hearing about "horrible drivers" for years. I've only ever had one problem I couldn't fix with ATI's drivers, but that was several years ago with a 3870 and was likely vista's fault anyway. I guess I am just more tolerant of little quirks than others, since I'd say AMD's drivers are perfectly adequate. I don't have a 7xxx series card yet, so I can't speak on those, just on the cards I've actually had personal experience with(9800, 3870, 4830, 5750). It might help that I always buy cards that are at least 6 months old.

there were some Grey screen of death issues back in the 5xxx era... mind you didn't nVidia release a driver that was bricking cards?
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there were some Grey screen of death issues back in the 5xxx era... mind you didn't nVidia release a driver that was bricking cards?

i think it was for the 590, something with the voltages, dont remember the whole story
    
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there were some Grey screen of death issues back in the 5xxx era... mind you didn't nVidia release a driver that was bricking cards?

Back in the g80 days, they had drivers that were letting the mobile GPUs get too hot and fry themselves(well over 100c).
Several companies had to do a recall, IIRC.
Wouldn't stop me from buying an NVIDIA GPU today though. Everybody screws up at some point, and G80 was quite a while ago.

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i think it was for the 590, something with the voltages, dont remember the whole story

Ohhh, uh that happened too, wasn't too big an issue though; Mostly effected people overclocking and overvolting at the same time.
Disappointing for a high end card, but I never trust dual GPU cards to begin with.
Edited by qwertymac93 - 5/12/12 at 6:22pm
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Back in the g80 days, they had drivers that were letting the mobile GPUs get too hot(well over 100c).
Several companies had to do a recall, IIRC.
Wouldn't stop me from buying an NVIDIA GPU today though. Everybody screws up at some point, and G80 was quite a while ago.
Edit:
Ohhh, uh that happened too, wasn't too big an issue though; Mostly effected people overclocking and overvolting at the same time, though some cards blew at stock volts.
Disappointing for a high end card, but I never trust dual GPU cards to begin with.

Nvidia's 196.75 driver caused fan issues, which killed a bunch of cards.
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i think it was for the 590, something with the voltages, dont remember the whole story

590s were fine at stock... it was apparently an issue with ASUS 590s which allowed users to put the voltage higher than Nvidia intended. However, if Nvidia didn't skimp on VRMs in the first place...
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I agree with the guy who said we need an 8800GT again. Excellent performance at a price basically anyone could afford. I remember paying 260 for my 8800GTS 512 back in the day. First thing I did was load Crysis up at 1440X900 at high details at a janky 30FPS. Was totally floored.
    
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I don't think AMD will be looking so bad next year when they start providing all of the GPU's for EVERY next-gen console on the market... thumb.gif
Never underestimate how badly AMD can screw something up. Manufacturing delays, another CEO, whatever.
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Never underestimate how badly AMD can screw something up. Manufacturing delays, another CEO, whatever.

The drivers are still an absolute joke, I was running fine with 11.12 but what a damn surprise, BF3 stopped working with them and I was forced to update to these terrible 12.3 (now 12.4) drivers that are an absolute PITA to do everything with. It can't even handle firefox opening with 100+ tabs if there is a video in one when the old drivers could handle it fine. (bluescreens as soon as the video loads). Not to mention the amount of times CCC has crashed while I was playing GTA4.

Next time i'm buying GPU's, They will be Nvidia (as long as I can run four monitors off one card which it seems you can now).
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That doesn't even sound like a driver issue... sounds like something in your rig's about to take a crap.

But no, let's blame AMD drivers, because that's the easy route.
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See, this is why articles like this cannot use the first line with any sort of BOLDED point. It doesn't paint the entire picture. The original article is talking about a 55% decline in profits for Q1 2012, because Kepler was non-existent and production costs were high due to low yields/supply. So, the profits decreased, but overall revenue is still expected to increase, which is the next part of the article, and is what WSJ is talking about:

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Looking ahead, the company forecast revenue for the second quarter well above the Street expectations. The company's shares are gaining more than 9 percent in the pre-market.

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Nvidia, which originally provided a downbeat view for the first quarter, reported revenue at the top end of its guidance. It also projected fiscal second-quarter sales of $990 million to $1.05 billion, above the $976 million ...

This is why Q1 results are generally meaningless. I take it back, the article wasn't sensationalist at all - the thread is just entirely misleading. If you understand the market at all, the situation is not anywhere close to as grim-sounding as, "Nvidia Profit Plunges."

The first quarter results indicate 2 things. Nvidia is facing pricing pressure in the GPU market. GF110 is EOL. Whats left in the channel is being cleared by aggressive pricing on GTX 570, GTX 560 Ti 448. Nvidia vendors might be price protected. GK104 is selling well but yields and supply is a question. 4 out of 7 GTX 670 cards are sold out. This after they have had an entire quarter of GK104 production to stockpile GTX 670.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709+600315498&QksAutoSuggestion=&ShowDeactivatedMark=False&Configurator=&IsNodeId=1&Subcategory=48&description=&hisInDesc=&Ntk=&CFG=&SpeTabStoreType=&AdvancedSearch=1&srchInDesc=


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The die shows 3rd week of 2012 date stamp "1203A2". So GK104 must have been in production from late Dec or early Jan . The next quarter forecasts from Nvidia look good. Lets see what AMD does to improve competition. If they release HD 7970 Ghz edition in late May or early June the price competition will heat up given that AMD has better yields now to cut prices and still make decent margins.

http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/News/299279,amd-gives-the-7970-a-boost.aspx

"yields are now better, their average voltage required to hit 925MHz is much lower than it was on early ES revisions, and most chips are happily hitting 1250MHz now"

So a month from now might be a good time to buy one of the high end cards whether its from Nvidia or AMD. Competition benefits us all smile.gif

Also GK 104 is not going to take care of the sub USD 300 market. Nvidia needs GK106 out soon and then we can expect true competition from USD 200 and higher in the graphics market.
Edited by raghu78 - 5/13/12 at 9:50am
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I might be too but not a sub-10 dollar teetering on disaster level.

Would a 10 to 1 reverse split quell your fears?
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