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I do this exact same thing that you have here. I have my FX 8120 (local machine) it is a quad core now basically and i have my pentium 4 and athalon connected via rdp to the local machines vm's. (each is a dual core essentially) I also had wireless on one of mine and had similar issues. I went and bought 2 gigabit lan NIC's and installed in the aged machines and problems solved. You would think that the 150mbps connection has plenty bandwidth but apparently not. I will try to help you out if you have any more questions but I'll be honest, I am pretty sure I got lucky setting it all up. I can be playing batman AC on the local machine and my wife and kids are both streaming HD movies simultaneously. It is truly brilliant setup. I also have anoter pentium 4 that i might just try to get on jsut to see if my bulldozer can handle it. Good luck and hope you get a grip on the resource issues!

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I'm pretty sure the bandwidth is sufficient. Blu-rays generally have a bit rate of about 40 Mbps. 150 Mbps is more than sufficient.

It wouldn't surprise me if it's not as much a bandwidth issue as much as it was a quality of wireless issue (either on the side of the NIC, or the router). I had this POS Belkin wireless router that would cause unbelieveable stuttering during youtube playback--changed routers and the problem went away. Didn't have problems on wired connections, and didn't upgrade the internet connection.

Could be an answer to the problem--could also be something entirely different. smile.gif
    
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4-5 megabyte?that would be 32 to 40 megabit?you ll need to up the multimedia thing i linked to 30 in that case (if it wasnt just a mistake or me badly converting value)cause normally that is good for 10 packet per millisecond or 10000 packet per second at around 1500 bit per packet that end up 15 million bit or around 15 megabit/8 (to get it in byte)1.875 megabyte!this is the max it is set at by ms !you can even disable it totally to make sure but i dont recommend it!
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Nope, not bandwidth.

I'm being CPU bottlenecked by the Athlon64 3300+ somehow (possibly GPU bottlenecked as well).

I got curious, so I hooked the machine up wired in my main rig's spot. Played my Harry Potter blu ray (also has troubles) over the VM on it. It'll play fine for about 5 seconds, audio starts to desync, then it goes all screwy (rinse and repeat). During the times that the file was playing fine (for those brief 2-3 seconds or so), the CPU was at 100% load on the local machine.

This makes absolutely zero sense. sozo.gif I'm using RDP for the entire reason of AVOIDING my local hardware. Why is this not working correctly? frown.gif

So yeah, long story short.... using RDP, is resulting in EXACTLY the same performance as trying to play the files back on the slow machine natively. The entire system FEELS snappier though in the RDP, but for some odd reason, WMP is just not playing nicely in RDP, and is using up local resources, when it SHOULD be using the server's resources.

As such....I'm stuck. No idea what I can do now. I can't run XBMC on this machine, its too slow. So I can't access my DLNA server to transcode.
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Too slow?
I ran XBMC on a 3200+ with 512mb tongue.gif

The trick was not to install any antivirus lol.
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I dont use WMP I use VLC for all my HD video playback on my VM/RDP setup. Im sure that doesnt have anything to do with it though but jsut a thought.
    
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So, I don't really know how RDP works at a deep level, but I understand the concept of what you're attempting to do is to offload the processing to the server and watch vs RDP and I'm hesitant to suggest that it probably doesn't work like that. You're probably only creating excess network chatter and additional processing, both server side and client side, in order to get things working the way that you're attempting to do it, and depending on how they cracked the nut, any potential savings will just be a result in a loss of quality.

I believe you should make another attempt at the alternatives suggested, but some food for though:-

Your 100Mb NIC is faster than the wireless, and much more reliable.
Your 100Mb NIC isn't ideal, if you're going to be introducing a lot of extra network traffic, but for the pure files it _should_ be enough. Not all NICs are equal though, and you need to compare actual throughput to the bitrates of file + overhead.
If you want to stream to multiple clients from your server, you probably want at least a 1Gb NIC (on the server), if not two of them bonded.
Your disks will probably become the bottleneck.

I'm sure you already know this crap, but I was typing anyway so I thought I'd add it. The RDP idea is a bad idea, in my opinion.
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Too slow?
I ran XBMC on a 3200+ with 512mb tongue.gif

The trick was not to install any antivirus lol.

On what OS? I can only use Windows 7. For whatever strange, and unknown to me reason....not a single one of my wireless cards in this house will work on my network without Windows 7 (Haven't tried Vista, don't want to). In XP, I don't remember if they couldn't FIND the network, or that they couldn't authenticate.
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So, I don't really know how RDP works at a deep level, but I understand the concept of what you're attempting to do is to offload the processing to the server and watch vs RDP and I'm hesitant to suggest that it probably doesn't work like that. You're probably only creating excess network chatter and additional processing, both server side and client side, in order to get things working the way that you're attempting to do it, and depending on how they cracked the nut, any potential savings will just be a result in a loss of quality.

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Your 100Mb NIC is faster than the wireless, and much more reliable.
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If you want to stream to multiple clients from your server, you probably want at least a 1Gb NIC, if not two of them bonded.
Your disks will probably become the bottleneck.

I'm sure you already know this crap, but I was typing anyway so I thought I'd add it. The RDP idea is a bad idea, in my opinion.

The 100Mbps NIC is on the old and slow rig. My server has dual Gigabit NIC's, and about oh...8TB worth of drives in RAID10. The server and network isn't the issue, its the old slow rig. Not sure how to fix it either.

I guess I can try VLC.
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I'd be willing to bet from experience that its simply RDP + that hardware causing your issues. Any reason why you don't use local media player installs and just view the files on shares/stores ?

VM/RDP & Multimedia/Graphics Acceleration still doesn't really go hand in hand imo.
    
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The 100Mbps NIC is on the old and slow rig. My server has dual Gigabit NIC's, and about oh...8TB worth of drives in RAID10. The server and network isn't the issue, its the old slow rig. Not sure how to fix it either.
I guess I can try VLC.

I think it depends the type of NIC. Some NICs will offload from the CPU, such as an Intel, maybe a broadcom, but a realtek nic likely has no such hardware to do this. In any event, the easiest way to test such a thing is so test the throughput, you should be able to transfer about 12MB/s, watch the CPU usage when you do this. With regards tot he 8TB of drives and raid10, the size doesn't matter, but raid 10 should help a bit. It's a complicated issue, but I don't think it's symptomatic to the problems you're having.

On a side note, doesn't the 6200 have video acceleration?
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