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post #31 of 44
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Originally Posted by crazedsilence View Post

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Originally Posted by UltraHoboLord View Post

the 3820 is worse because it cant overclock and worse in gaming.

False.
Here is just one thread of 3820 overclockers http://www.overclock.net/t/1221208/i7-3820-overclock/0_30
There are guides all over the place of how to overclock a 3820.
It is true that the 3820 is not a 'k' series, but it can still be overclocked.
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Originally Posted by MAD-DUKE View Post

Is there a better http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131760 motherboard then this, that you would recommend?
Not really worth it IMO it is better though but around double the price
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Originally Posted by MAD-DUKE View Post

Basically I want to play the best games on the highest quality graphics, while frapsing, streaming live, watching a movie, and surfing the web all at the same time without any lag or skipping on any of my 4 monitors doing all this.
The build I listed would be the best price/performance for that price range. Anymore would not be worth it IMO but if thats what you want bt all means. Whats your budget or are you just trying to get the best possible?
post #32 of 44
Looking to spend Around $3000 but willing to go over.
post #33 of 44
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Originally Posted by MAD-DUKE View Post

Looking to spend Around $3000 but willing to go over.
Well if you want all that then this would be the best stuff to get;

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($569.99 @ Amazon)
LGA2011 cpu that will render and play games really well.

CPU Cooler: XSPC Rasa 750 RX360 WaterCooling Kit ($189.95 @ Performance-PCs)
Great triple radiator kit that you can always add on to.

Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty X79 Professional ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($289.47 @ Newegg)
Great LGA2011 MOBO. It gives you a 4-way sli option as well as nice includes software/ good BIOS. There is also extremely fast RAM support. The only bad thing about it is there is "only" 4 dimm slots which doesn't really matter because there is no reason to have over 32GB.

Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($224.99 @ Newegg)
Fastest memory out there it isn't ridiculously expensive. 2 dimms are better for OCing; less stress on the memory controller.

SSD: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($119.00 @ B&H)
Basically the fastest and most reliable SSD.

Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
3tb 7200rpm HDD that is pretty reliable.

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($567.60 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($567.60 @ NCIX US)
Best coolers for 680s and faster then a 690 but they draw more power which isn't a problem with this PSU.

Case: NZXT Switch 810 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($169.99 @ Amazon)
An extremely cool (In both ways) and large case. They are coming out with matte black and gunmetal if you don't want it to be "shiny"

Power Supply: Rosewill 1300W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($218.49 @ Newegg)
1300w 80+ gold modular PSU whose OEM is Super Flower (Good).

Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Amazon)
Fine unless you want blueray.

Total: $3,085.06
post #34 of 44
Ok what is the BEST Memory based on performance for this:
Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501
post #35 of 44
I would just like to say that when Linus was testing the GTX 680's for power consumption, they only reached a max 400w from the wall, total system power. Throw two in SLI and you end up with, of course, 800w power being drawn more or less. Taking that into consideration, a 1000w power supply would be ample for this type of setup. Keep in mind that it's more power efficient to run a power supply to near capacity than to have a huge power supply that can't even be justified by your system (I.E. a 1200w or 1300w power supply.) Again, that being said, I would suggest looking into the Seasonic Platinum 1000w power supply. I was skeptical of Seasonic at first, because I am a huge Corsair fan, but Seasonic simply makes a better and more efficient power supply.

btw, please do not rage on my banner below about "You can never have too big of a power supply." This was before I even knew what power efficiency was thumb.gif
post #36 of 44
As for the builds, I was seriously engulfed in X79 because I, like many others, wanted the absolute best and most powerful machine i could get my hands on. But, as others have stated, the money put into X79 cannot be justified if you are just gaming and are not going to be doing things like 3D modeling, etc... A quad core Sandy or Ivy Bridge processor is more than enough for a high-end gaming computer. Believe it or not, there are still some people rocking out to dual-core processors (me for example.) As for motherboards, as stated above, the board you pick is based solely on your needs. If you are going to be running SLI with a sound card, then choose the Sabertooth or Maximus series motherboards from Asus, they both have great layouts for that type of setup. Likewise, if you are going to only be using a single card with nothing else, then any reputable board will do, and keep in mind the over-clocking abilities of each board if you plan on doing that.

As for graphics card, if you want GFK110 (or however it's spelled), then go with a GTX 670 right now and upgrade later. If not, then go with a GTX 680. But please keep in mind that both cards have alot of horsepower and can run most games at very high settings, if not maxed out.

In regards to Mad-Duke, if you mean memory as in RAM, any old 1600 kit would be good for you. Might I personally suggest Corsair Vengeance 1600 RAM. Unlike the processor or graphics card, the RAM in a computer doesn't justify huge gains in performance over other types of RAM, but only in memory-specific benchmarks. With RAM, it all just depends on how much of it you want really and how much multi-tasking ability you want. I would suggest this kit right here:
Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 1600 RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233143

I hope I could have been of help to all of you:D
post #37 of 44
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Originally Posted by MAD-DUKE View Post

Ok what is the BEST Memory based on performance for this:
Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501
I listed it in the build. You want to have 2 dimms for better overclocking so there is less stress on your memory controller. as far as the size 16gb is all you will really ever need. You will basically never go over 50% usage. The speeds on this thing are ridiculous 2400 with room for OCing will make rendering a lot faster.
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Originally Posted by Weezernation View Post

I would just like to say that when Linus was testing the GTX 680's for power consumption, they only reached a max 400w from the wall, total system power. Throw two in SLI and you end up with, of course, 800w power being drawn more or less. Taking that into consideration, a 1000w power supply would be ample for this type of setup. Keep in mind that it's more power efficient to run a power supply to near capacity than to have a huge power supply that can't even be justified by your system (I.E. a 1200w or 1300w power supply.) Again, that being said, I would suggest looking into the Seasonic Platinum 1000w power supply. I was skeptical of Seasonic at first, because I am a huge Corsair fan, but Seasonic simply makes a better and more efficient power supply.

btw, please do not rage on my banner below about "You can never have too big of a power supply." This was before I even knew what power efficiency was thumb.gif
Well a 1300w PSU will leave room for quad sli and its cheaper then the Seasonic Platinum 1000w. If you didn't know this most companies psus are made by some one else (the OEM) for example most of Corsairs psus are made by Seasonic but some are made by CWT. I am making a guide by OEM if you want to check that out it's not near done though.
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Originally Posted by Weezernation View Post

As for the builds, I was seriously engulfed in X79 because I, like many others, wanted the absolute best and most powerful machine i could get my hands on. But, as others have stated, the money put into X79 cannot be justified if you are just gaming and are not going to be doing things like 3D modeling, etc... A quad core Sandy or Ivy Bridge processor is more than enough for a high-end gaming computer. Believe it or not, there are still some people rocking out to dual-core processors (me for example.) As for motherboards, as stated above, the board you pick is based solely on your needs. If you are going to be running SLI with a sound card, then choose the Sabertooth or Maximus series motherboards from Asus, they both have great layouts for that type of setup. Likewise, if you are going to only be using a single card with nothing else, then any reputable board will do, and keep in mind the over-clocking abilities of each board if you plan on doing that.

As for graphics card, if you want GFK110 (or however it's spelled), then go with a GTX 670 right now and upgrade later. If not, then go with a GTX 680. But please keep in mind that both cards have alot of horsepower and can run most games at very high settings, if not maxed out.

In regards to Mad-Duke, if you mean memory as in RAM, any old 1600 kit would be good for you. Might I personally suggest Corsair Vengeance 1600 RAM. Unlike the processor or graphics card, the RAM in a computer doesn't justify huge gains in performance over other types of RAM, but only in memory-specific benchmarks. With RAM, it all just depends on how much of it you want really and how much multi-tasking ability you want. I would suggest this kit right here:
Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 1600 RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233143

I hope I could have been of help to all of you:D

If he wants to "play the best games on the highest quality graphics, while frapsing, streaming live, watching a movie, and surfing the web all at the same time without any lag or skipping on any of my 4 monitors doing all this." then you will basically need X79 because streaming and frapsing will use up a lot of cpu power. The ASUS Rampage IV X79 and ASUS Sabertooth X79 are worse then the ASRock Fatal1ty X79. The Sabertooth is worse because there's only 3 PCI 3.0 slots, worse memory speeds 2600+ vs 1866, and costs more. The only upside would be the thremal armor which on the X79 doesn't even cover the entire board. The rampage IV has basically the same features but it but worse memory speeds and the Fatal1ty is cheaper by a lot.

The GK110 isn't going to be out until the fourth quarter this year.

What I said before.
post #38 of 44
I appreciate all the help. I originally wanted x79 but I ended up buying
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Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501
After being convinced here and from other friends. So now I am trying to get the best I can out of this processor. Im half tempted to send it back for your (UltraHoboLord) pc build.

To accommodate this processor I am considering the follow purchases: Talk me into something better (Performance wise) thanks :-)

Power Supply: (friend talked me into Corsair's Sleeving) $267.98
Corsair Professional Series Gold 1200-Watt 80 Plus Gold Certified High-Performance Power Supply - CMPSU-1200AX
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003PJ6QVU/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

BlueRay Drive: (looked good?) $118.38
LiteOn iHBS112-29 12x Internal SATA Blu-Ray Combo Burner 8Mb Cache, Black
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004LPHKWG/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Switch 810 Case: (Recommended by Ultra and a ton of people) $169.99
NZXT SWITCH 810 BLACK Full Tower Chassis with USB 3.0
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00752QYLU/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Motherboard: (seemed the best for my CPU) $339.99
ASUS Maximus IV Extreme -Z - LGA 1155 - Z68 - Republic of Gamer Series - ATX Intel Z68 ATX DDR3 2200 Motherboards
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005584ZEO/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Memory (Recommended by Ultra - Although would prefer something black... might look around) $231.30
G.Skill Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory
http://www.amazon.com/G-Skill-PC3-19200-2400MHz-Trident-10-12-12-31/dp/B0080FFZ8E/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1337240969&sr=1-1

UltraHoboLord Recommendations:
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($567.60 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($567.60 @ NCIX US)
SSD: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($119.00 @ B&H)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: XSPC Rasa 750 RX360 WaterCooling Kit - I noticed this does not fit my socket
post #39 of 44
The motherboard you listed - ASUS Maximus IV Extreme doesn't support PCIe 3.0. You wouldn't be using your processor to it's fullest potential with a Z68 board, not to mention if you have 2 680's, they'll be running at PCI 2.0 x8/x8.
post #40 of 44
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Originally Posted by MAD-DUKE View Post

I appreciate all the help. I originally wanted x79 but I ended up buying
Quote:
Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501
After being convinced here and from other friends. So now I am trying to get the best I can out of this processor. Im half tempted to send it back for your (UltraHoboLord) pc build.

To accommodate this processor I am considering the follow purchases: Talk me into something better (Performance wise) thanks :-)

Power Supply: (friend talked me into Corsair's Sleeving) $267.98
Corsair Professional Series Gold 1200-Watt 80 Plus Gold Certified High-Performance Power Supply - CMPSU-1200AX
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003PJ6QVU/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

BlueRay Drive: (looked good?) $118.38
LiteOn iHBS112-29 12x Internal SATA Blu-Ray Combo Burner 8Mb Cache, Black
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004LPHKWG/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Switch 810 Case: (Recommended by Ultra and a ton of people) $169.99
NZXT SWITCH 810 BLACK Full Tower Chassis with USB 3.0
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00752QYLU/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Motherboard: (seemed the best for my CPU) $339.99
ASUS Maximus IV Extreme -Z - LGA 1155 - Z68 - Republic of Gamer Series - ATX Intel Z68 ATX DDR3 2200 Motherboards
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005584ZEO/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Memory (Recommended by Ultra - Although would prefer something black... might look around) $231.30
G.Skill Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory
http://www.amazon.com/G-Skill-PC3-19200-2400MHz-Trident-10-12-12-31/dp/B0080FFZ8E/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1337240969&sr=1-1

UltraHoboLord Recommendations:
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($567.60 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($567.60 @ NCIX US)
SSD: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($119.00 @ B&H)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: XSPC Rasa 750 RX360 WaterCooling Kit - I noticed this does not fit my socket

You'll need the adapter for the Rasa. The Z68 mobo won't let you use the full potential of the IB CPU. I would get the ASUS P8Z77 WS LGA 1155 if you ever want to 4-way sli you can do that or have high speed / OCed ram. If you want a blacker set of ram then maybe get the G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3 2400. Same speeds but more ram, more expensive and also has some fans. this BLueray Drive would be cheaper I really having it a bit faster matters at all but your choice. The SeaSonic Platinum 1000W psu would be better efficiency wise but the one you picked is fine. the switch also has the NZXT Switch 810 Special Edition which is in matte black and gunmetal that's basically the only difference.
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