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If you don't know the difference between a trojan and a virus then you might as well be calling all SSDs hard disks, you sound just as foolish.
You know, it brings up a good semantics question--there are hard disks in systems. A hard disk is, to my understanding, just a non-volatile storage disk. It just so happened that historically we only ever used platter/spindle disks because of how easy it was to make and use them. Now that SSDs are here, we have SSDs. But they're all hard disks. Shouldn't we be referring to previous ones (that we call HDDs) as "platter" or "spindle" disks? They're all hard disks.
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I can't tell if you're serious...
Why not? Isn't it considered the computer? Computer, monitor, keyboard/mouse... It's not the CPU, if that's what you thought he was saying.
    
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Why not? Isn't it considered the computer? Computer, monitor, keyboard/mouse... It's not the CPU, if that's what you thought he was saying.

I thought he was saying that the average PC user, the kind that buys a $200 system from Walmart, always calls the tower a computer. I've heard them call it all sorts of things, but mostly calling it the hard drive for some reason.
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You call your mouse the computer too? *high five*

Hell yeah. thumb.gif
    
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You know, it brings up a good semantics question--there are hard disks in systems. A hard disk is, to my understanding, just a non-volatile storage disk. It just so happened that historically we only ever used platter/spindle disks because of how easy it was to make and use them. Now that SSDs are here, we have SSDs. But they're all hard disks. Shouldn't we be referring to previous ones (that we call HDDs) as "platter" or "spindle" disks? They're all hard disks.

Well they're undoubtedly all hard drives. If I hit you in the head with a spinner it will only hurt more than an SSD because it's heavier. Whether or not an SSD is a disk drive is more debatable given that a disk is traditionally thin and round. However, SSD can stand for Solid State Drive or Solid State Disk, so I guess it's down to personal preference like everything.

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While I agree we should probably due away with the semantic arguements we should though define.

I think malware is good for everything short of a virus, only because a virus has a meet a specific criteria to be a virus. If your a computer tech and you tell me I have malware the next question out of my mouth will be; What type? My mechanic doesn't tell me your cars broken it's going to be $500, and your doctor doesn't say your sick take these pills. the expressly state whats wrong, how they plan on fixing it, and what it'll cost.

Are they all bad: Yes

Are they all the same: No
 
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They are both malware and that's all they need to know. If they want to know more, then I'll gladly explain, but don't waste your breath explaining what people have no interest in understanding or possibly already know. If they want to know more or have more clarification, I'd gladly explain.

Completely agree with you man... When people ask me after I fix their computers up "So what was it? Some sort of bad virus?" I simply shrug and say "Yea... that's it... a bad virus..." "So how did I get that thing?" "Too much porn. It's like when you sleep around too much and get an STD." lachen.gif
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post #57 of 72
I thought "malware" was the general term for all bad software.

Latin for "bad": Mal (add the suffix -ware from "software) = bad software.

Isn't this correct?
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I thought "malware" was the general term for all bad software.
Latin for "bad": Mal (add the suffix -ware from "software) = bad software.
Isn't this correct?

This article helped me understand the differences.

Mal is just short for Malicious.
    
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post #59 of 72
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This article helped me understand the differences.
Mal is just short for Malicious.

Yea, but malicious derive from the latin word "mal" so I guess I was partially right. biggrin.gif
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Yea, but malicious derive from the latin word "mal" so I guess I was partially right. biggrin.gif

That's paradoxical. Chicken or egg?
    
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