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Will do. I am however using a VGA connection. Could that be the problem as well?


Also, if the flicker becomes a lot dimmer, is there a test I can do to tell if it is indeed flickering?
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Does the revision matter much in these kind of monitors? smile.gif

I really don't know. Mines an A03 manufactured in May 2012 (so its about as current as it can be). I figured it would be pretty new as Amazon was out of stock for some time and I ordered as soon as they got some in.
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Is there a test to see if the monitor truly is flickering or not?
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You could test it with a camera smile.gif As camera can pick the flickering even the one your naked eye cant see.
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Hi,

I've got a U2412M + VGA too and having issue with text sharpness.
Does anyone with VGA input able to pass this test?
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/sharpness.php

No matter how I squint my eyes or how far I look at the screen from a distance the fringe won't disappear.
I passed the Clock and phase, so the relevant settings should be correct.
Edited by WhizzWr - 8/10/12 at 8:28pm
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Originally Posted by WhizzWr View Post

Hi,
I've got a U2412M + VGA too and having issue with text sharpness.
Anyone with VGA can pass this test:
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/sharpness.php
No matter how I squint my eyes or how far I look at the screen from a distance the fringe won't disappear.
I passed the Clock and phase, so the relevant settings should be correct.
maybe you'll get help but i have 5 monitors and the TN panels just have better text sharpness than the ips panels. not even the $1000 monitor zr30w comes close to any of my tn panels in text sharpness. after a while your eyes are just gonna have to adjust to your monitor.
ips panels are good for "color" and viewing angle.

i'm just generally not a fan of ips monitors. i just feel we're brainwashed by marketing to like them... i'm always infront of my monitor i don't use my computer monitors to watch tv or movies. so i don't care for viewing angles on my computer monitor. ips monitors before the u2412m are noticeably slower. (i havent tried a u2412m monitor to judge it). if you click on the title bar of a window and place it half on the ips monitor other half on the tn panel, and move it up and down fast, the ips monitor is noticeably slower. so i dont get why ppl get ips monitors for [competitive] gaming..

i dont game much. and like my tn panel for its text sharpness. sure it's got noticeably poor colors but for my eyesight i'd rather see slightly wrong colors than blurry corners. i hope there's better technology in 2013.
    
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Text sharpness can be affected by panel type, but that's not a deciding factor here. Only certain panel types (some VAs for example) have clearly inferior text compared to other panel types. I don't know what TN displays you have but it's far more likely that the sharpness you perceive in them comes from a higher pixel density and a lighter coating. Additionally, your TN displays might have some OSD settings or cleartype (in windows) settings set to produce a different result (I think cleartype sets individual settings for each monitor, not sure).

Also, that thing about the IPS monitor being behind a TN monitor. False. That can happen on any panel type (though rarely TN because they lack the hardware that makes it happen more often than not) and it is generally the result of input lag. There are some very low latency IPS models out there that will not have this behaviour.

It's likely he'd get better results by using DVI or DP.

There's a lot of downsides that IPS has, but what you are saying is simply not true. Generally you should not be generalizing monitors. There's too much variation in the attributes of displays of even the same panel types for any mostly blind generalization to be even remotely correct. You having experienced 1-3 monitors of panel type X doesn't mean you've experienced them all.
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Thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts, folks smile.gif

I found a fix: a simple adjustment on OSD sharpness level fixed the text sharpness issue--mostly.

Blur text and sharpness level, the correlation simply could not be clearer, huh?
OK, I'm an idiot. graduated.gif
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maybe you'll get help but i have 5 monitors and the TN panels just have better text sharpness than the ips panels. not even the $1000 monitor zr30w comes close to any of my tn panels in text sharpness. after a while your eyes are just gonna have to adjust to your monitor.
ips panels are good for "color" and viewing angle.
i'm just generally not a fan of ips monitors. i just feel we're brainwashed by marketing to like them... i'm always infront of my monitor i don't use my computer monitors to watch tv or movies. so i don't care for viewing angles on my computer monitor. ips monitors before the u2412m are noticeably slower. (i havent tried a u2412m monitor to judge it). if you click on the title bar of a window and place it half on the ips monitor other half on the tn panel, and move it up and down fast, the ips monitor is noticeably slower. so i dont get why ppl get ips monitors for [competitive] gaming..
i dont game much. and like my tn panel for its text sharpness. sure it's got noticeably poor colors but for my eyesight i'd rather see slightly wrong colors than blurry corners. i hope there's better technology in 2013.

Yeah, usually after looking at the screen in 15 minutes or so I can't really say if the text is looking too blurry.
The problem is I'm working with both monitor AND laptop screen, which show noticeably sharper text. So when I constantly moving my eyes from the laptop screen to the monitor and vice versa, the whole eye adjustment thing is kind of messed up. tongue.gif

I'm aware about the whole IPS hype, but my current usage scenario is somewhat very suited toward IPS screen:
1.I play games once in blue moon. Most common usage are heavy web-browsing, office works, and a bit of CAD & Programming. (No problem with slow response time)
2.I'm looking at the screen from various angle (the U2412M is wall-mounted on 360° rotating pivot bracket, with 15° tilt)
3.I'm doing occasional web-design and/or graphic editing. (Colour accuracy wins)
4.I also watch TV and movies on this monitor (I love vibrant colour!) biggrin.gif
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It's likely he'd get better results by using DVI or DP..

Indeed, Tft central review explicitly stated text from VGA input looks a bit blurry compared to the DVI-D counterpart. Unfortunately I don't have anything on this laptop but VGA output.
I'm considering to get the dock, which has DP.

The current text sharpness is OK, but I still can't pass the Lagoom sharpness test even after messing with the sharpness setting.
Figured that if I passed the test the text would also look sharper.
That's why I'm asking if someone with VGA input can comment whether the sharpness issue is common on all U2412M or it's just me. smile.gif

Again, I appreciate all of your inputs. thumb.gif
Edited by WhizzWr - 8/10/12 at 8:27pm
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So what does actually determine the speed of the monitor? Because i also noticed this on some monitors that some felt way snappier than others. Is it the input lag?
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So i'm looking for a monitor to replace my aging 940BW...

Are these good for gaming AND photoshop? 250€ here where i live,good price?
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