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1. OK, I could care less...
2. If it don't work, call them up and explain everything, whatever...
3. Encourages people to not steal... no problem with that...
4. It's fairly obvious that they refer to not altering the software... this isn't open-source.... jeez...
5. Whoop-dee-doo... how often will that happen??
6. That doesn't make any sense to me? what the heck are they saying?

I'm still buying vista.... this is Ridiculous... sounds like Apple encouraged this...

Are you not seeing the core problem here? Most of it I have no problem with. But it's this one time reinstall thing that's the problem. If this is correct dude, there's no calling them up and explaining anything. You get to install it one extra time besides the initial, then you're done. So I guess you either A) Plan on installing Vista once, then never doing major hardware upgrades again, or B) You understand what this means, and it doesn't bother you to repurchase it again and again. I think it's rediculous, and if that's what it means, they're crossing the line.
    
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post #42 of 116
I hate to be the devils advocate, but MS has been crapped on by consumers.
Now I'm gonna be brutally honest, the copy of XP I am using currently isn't enirely legit (no flaming please). I have a good copy, don't get me wrong about that, but the one on this computer isn't legit cause I couldn't afford another one.

Now, I agree that people who pay good money shouldn't be penalized, but every time that MS tries to stop privacy, it gets owned again (WGA).

You can't really blame MS. They spend billions of dollars developing a software, and then they get ripped. They are a business. Businesses make money.

Until microsoft finds a way to stop pirates, they will have to resort to harsher means.

Sorry guys, you will buy MS, because having used Ubuntu as a noob, its just not viable.

Nrgx.
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Looks like I and a number of others will not be purchasing "Vista".
So, who's gonna teach us old-timers and noobs how to run Linux?
I'm hoping someone "in-the-know" starts a F.A.Q. ON THIS ONE.
Would be much appreciated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
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I've started my Linux readings allready! This $hit is complicated... but it's still more interesting than studying for my Geotechnical Mechanics Midterm! woot!
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post #45 of 116
I agree, this issue here is mostly about the "one-time-deal" thing. I haven't had a huge problem with activation with XP, but i have reinstalled it about 15 times. Imagine how much $ that woulda been if it was vista. But you are right, they are able to do this; they're a multi-billion dollar business And it isn't like no one's gonna ever buy it. The best WE can do is look for some kind of alternative. My next computer will probably be a Mac.

Edit: because Mac is backed by a company, not a community of hobbyists. I get really annoyed with gramatical errors and stuff in Ubuntu and Suse.
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I get really annoyed with gramatical errors and stuff in Ubuntu and Suse.
As an engineer, grammar is something i have always been willing to sacrifice for free installs
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post #47 of 116
Lets do a "Whose going to get Vista" vote

http://www.overclock.net/operating-s...ing-vista.html
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http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase..._licensing.asp

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Adding and removing PC components
This one dates back to the first horror stories about Product Activation (PA) and how users who made even modest hardware changes to their PCs would have to reactivate Windows on a regular basis. In worst-case scenarios, so the story went, users would be shut out of their PCs because Windows detected too many hardware changes.

Hogwash. Fewer than 5 percent of PC users ever open a PC case let alone perform major hardware surgery. But if you're one of those guys who regularly upgrades your PC's hardware, you'll be happy to hear that instances of forced reactivation because of hardware upgrades are less frequent under Vista than they were under XP. More to the point, this is another one of those issues that only affects a tiny, tiny percentage of Windows users.

When Windows examines changes to the system, the two most heavily weighed components are the PC's motherboard and hard drive, in that order. If you change both of these components at one time, Windows will almost certainly assume it's running in a new computer and cause you to reactivate. "It's that old question, 'When does a boat become a new boat?," Boettcher asked, rhetorically. "When every plank has been replaced, is it a new boat?" In the case of a Windows XP and Vista-based PC, there is an algorithm that examines hardware changes and, based on an internal score, determines whether a reactivation is required.

When that happens, Windows will attempt to reactivate electronically. If that fails, the user will need to call and reactivate manually. This is the same under Vista as it was under XP, though again the algorithm has been updated to be less strict.

"This is a fairly rare thing," Boettcher said. "Edge cases can be accommodated through customer support, but it's a relatively small group: People who are building their own PCs; hard core enthusiasts." Long story short, you'll have to talk to a human being and explain what happened. Just as you have had to do with XP.
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Micro$oft's anti-piracy ideas are like SecuROM. They punish the end user, while not making any actual headway into stopping piracy.
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HAHA thanks man!! i've never been sigged before!!
Glad someone appreciates my canadian sense of humour... BTW... Is it just me or is MS seeming like they might be slowly moving away from the home market and more trying to dabble in the corporate market? Just seems to me that they will sell alot of copies to big OEM's and to big companies and to other things like Palm PC's?
I think there will be a sustantial shift in the OS of choice for ppl in the know.
Also... do they really think this will stop pirating? ppl will come up with something new... they always do. Just you wait!
Hahahah!!!! That's great!!! You actually think that Microsoft has *ever* given a **** about the home market? 80+ percent of their sales are OEM.
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