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I asked some questions on the AMD forum but no answer.

I have always been a Nvidia fan but deciding between the 6xx series and 7xxx from AMD.

Main reason for AMD was 3 screens but Nvidia fixed that with the 6xx series (hopefully the 670 does 3 screens).

Other thing and main question. Is the AMD better at any of the folding programs (@home, seti etc..) than Nvidia now? My thought was since Nvidia made thier cards (6XX Geforce) more gaming and took away the gpgpu function.

Or do I have this GPGPU understood wrong and what it's true function is?

Please help me out so I can make a better choice on the two brands. I am not a heavy gamer anymore. So it will be for mid level games, video encoding, picture editing.

Deciding between the 680 and 7970. I know these are more than I need but I do not plan on upgrading this card again for about 2-3 years. Unless something comes out that I have no choice but to do it at that time.
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AMD is still really weak for the power draw in folding, not sure about in other DC projects. The 680 isn't bad for folding, right now on the current core it does just under a 580 but people are expecting an increase with an optimized core. I'm still personally waiting for big Kepler though, for the GPGPU reasons you mentioned, I'm sure GK104 will get better at folding but I expect there to be a huge jump in folding perfromance between it and big Kepler.
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AMD is still really weak for the power draw in folding, not sure about in other DC projects. The 680 isn't bad for folding, right now on the current core it does just under a 580 but people are expecting an increase with an optimized core. I'm still personally waiting for big Kepler though, for the GPGPU reasons you mentioned, I'm sure GK104 will get better at folding but I expect there to be a huge jump in folding perfromance between it and big Kepler.

Thanks for the response.

So when you say the "Big Kepler" are you referring to the "Real 680" or the Quadro/Tesler version of the 6XX series with GPGPU added to those?
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He means the gk110
    
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Thanks for the response.
So when you say the "Big Kepler" are you referring to the "Real 680" or the Quadro/Tesler version of the 6XX series with GPGPU added to those?

Yes, what happened was that Nvidia and AMD were readying their big guns (GCN for AMD and Kepler for Nvidia) and AMD released the 7970. There are numerous articles on OCN about Nvidia saying "We're not that impressed with the 7970". Well, it turns out that they were absolutely correct. The 7970 is a great card and a huge jump over previous architectures, but Nvidia expected even more. Nvidia was expecting the 7970 to completely blow anything else out of the water.

So when it didn't, Nvidia's mid-range GPU (GK104) was shifted from the GTX 660ti name to the GTX 680 name. Nvidia found that their mid range Kepler GPU could beat or equal AMD's top end solution. Now, we're waiting on Nvidia to release their top of the line GPU (perhaps the GTX 685?). It's just, right now, they don't need to because there'd be no point competition-wise.
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Thanks for the response.
So when you say the "Big Kepler" are you referring to the "Real 680" or the Quadro/Tesler version of the 6XX series with GPGPU added to those?

Yes, what happened was that Nvidia and AMD were readying their big guns (GCN for AMD and Kepler for Nvidia) and AMD released the 7970. There are numerous articles on OCN about Nvidia saying "We're not that impressed with the 7970". Well, it turns out that they were absolutely correct. The 7970 is a great card and a huge jump over previous architectures, but Nvidia expected even more. Nvidia was expecting the 7970 to completely blow anything else out of the water.

So when it didn't, Nvidia's mid-range GPU (GK104) was shifted from the GTX 660ti name to the GTX 680 name. Nvidia found that their mid range Kepler GPU could beat or equal AMD's top end solution. Now, we're waiting on Nvidia to release their top of the line GPU (perhaps the GTX 685?). It's just, right now, they don't need to because there'd be no point competition-wise.

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All hearsay

Don't think so....it is quite true.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1254426/vr-zone-how-the-geforce-gtx-690-is-a-prime-example-of-nvidia-reshaped

If you want the card soon go with the gtx 680, if you can wait 6 months then I would wait for the gk110.
Edited by icehotshot - 5/12/12 at 7:54pm
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Don't think so....it is quite true.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1254426/vr-zone-how-the-geforce-gtx-690-is-a-prime-example-of-nvidia-reshaped
If you want the card soon go with the gtx 680, if you can wait 6 months then I would wait for the gk110.

But is the gk110 going to have the added GPGPU function back in? If not I might as well get this edition.
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But is the gk110 going to have the added GPGPU function back in? If not I might as well get this edition.

At least, there will be new quadros and tesla using GK110. As for it adding in GPGPU back, no one is really sure about that since its possible either way.
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I don't know how to close this thread.

I went with a Gtx670. After reading all the reveiws out I could not see paying an extra $100 for the difference between the 670 and 680.

I went with the MSI GTX670 OC (i know, it is a reference). It only cost me $140 out of pocket, so not a bad deal. (I saved up my rebate gift/credit cards plus an instore credit. Send in those rebates forms and documentations people, it adds up).
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