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post #61 of 71
5/17/12 at 1:21pm
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Originally Posted by FromUndaChz View Post

So yeah.. 670 Asus TOP it is. That's just what I want, and what I think is a better card, especially for the price.
If you have and like a 7970, I'm glad for you guys.
Thanks for your input.

good choice mate.
With all due respect to 7950 fans (and it is a very capable card btw).

It is hard for me to recommend the 7950 over the 670 for any new buy right now. Cheaper, more power efficient, generally performs better at stock, etc. etc.

unless someone needs the 3GB of vram, there really is no reason (except supply issues) to get the7950 over the 670 for pure gaming.

Anyway, the decision to get a card is simple: set your budget, check out games you want to play/compute needs, look for benches, look for reviews (both professional and user) and make the purchase.

a part of me wants to get a new card for the summer but i think it will be a bad choice so i'll just save and wait for the new technologies to mature before i grab one ...
I like the benches in this thread though, both cards are pretty much neck-in-neck depending on what the user wants to play.
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post #62 of 71
5/17/12 at 8:07pm
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Okay so which one of these is better? 670 or 7950? I know this has been asked a lot but I need a straight up answer for this.
It would be same system specs at 2560x1440p. I mainly game but I do sometimes benchmark and stuff.

If you are looking to get maximum performance and not be bandwidth constrained in any kind of game in the present and the future go for Sapphire HD 7950 OC(950 Mhz). at USD 409. 670 is shown to be bandwidth constrained in games like crysis warhead, metro 2033. So take your pick. power efficiency with constraints (GTX 670 OC ) or a futureproof card (HD 7950 OC) which draws more power.
If you are a max OC kind of guy with Sapphire Trixx 1200+ is achievable. But you are going to have enough performance at 1100 at stock volts I don't see the need to push this card further.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102991

If you want to know what perf HD 7950 OC is capable of

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/03/01/xfx_radeon_hd_7950_black_edition_video_card_review/7

those numbers are at 1600p. You should be able to max out every latest game at 1440p, including BF3 Ultra 4X MSAA (45- 50 fps) .
Edited by raghu78 - 5/17/12 at 8:11pm
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post #63 of 71
5/18/12 at 1:10am
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LIKE I SAID THE HARDCOP SITE DIDNT OVERCLOCK THE AMD 7950 BCOZ THAY DONT WANT IT TO DESTROY THE GTX670

AMD 7950 1190 CORE

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post #64 of 71
5/18/12 at 3:34am
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Okay so which one of these is better? 670 or 7950? I know this has been asked a lot but I need a straight up answer for this.
It would be same system specs at 2560x1440p. I mainly game but I do sometimes benchmark and stuff.

If you are looking to get maximum performance and not be bandwidth constrained in any kind of game in the present and the future go for Sapphire HD 7950 OC(950 Mhz). at USD 409. 670 is shown to be bandwidth constrained in games like crysis warhead, metro 2033. So take your pick. power efficiency with constraints (GTX 670 OC ) or a futureproof card (HD 7950 OC) which draws more power.
If you are a max OC kind of guy with Sapphire Trixx 1200+ is achievable. But you are going to have enough performance at 1100 at stock volts I don't see the need to push this card further.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102991

If you want to know what perf HD 7950 OC is capable of

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/03/01/xfx_radeon_hd_7950_black_edition_video_card_review/7

those numbers are at 1600p. You should be able to max out every latest game at 1440p, including BF3 Ultra 4X MSAA (45- 50 fps) .

Well that makes me feel better but it won't be a Sapphire 7950. Its an MSI R7950. The guy I'm getting from offered me a trade for my 570. Do you think it would be bad for me to add a GTX 670 into the same rig as the 7950? Other than driver wise?
Edited by bigkahuna360 - 5/18/12 at 3:37am
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post #65 of 71
5/18/12 at 4:26am
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Well that makes me feel better but it won't be a Sapphire 7950. Its an MSI R7950. The guy I'm getting from offered me a trade for my 570. Do you think it would be bad for me to add a GTX 670 into the same rig as the 7950? Other than driver wise?

Are you asking if GTX 670 and HD 7950 can be used in the same machine together ? No they can't. You can use multi GPU setup only with same card . That means GTX 670 can be added with another GTX 670 only. HD 7950 with another HD 7950 only.
Edited by raghu78 - 5/18/12 at 9:06am
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post #66 of 71
5/19/12 at 5:08am
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amd 7xxx OC scaling is incredible
avg fps all games

from 49.3 ---overclock--->> 57.3 amd 7970 oc 1150
from 53.4----overclock--->> 58.2 gtx 680 oc 1186


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post #67 of 71
7/8/12 at 5:47pm
Will you guys take a EVGA 670 FTW at $410 that can OC to 1300mhz core stable

or MSI Twin Frozr III 7950 at $320 that I don't know how good it can OC to?

That is $90 difference after rebate.

*Gaming at 1080p might upgrade to 1440p later on.
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post #68 of 71
7/8/12 at 6:35pm
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Will you guys take a EVGA 670 FTW at $410 that can OC to 1300mhz core stable
or MSI Twin Frozr III 7950 at $320 that I don't know how good it can OC to?
That is $90 difference after rebate.
*Gaming at 1080p might upgrade to 1440p later on.

The MSI HD 7950 OC comes at 880 Mhz . it will do 1 Ghz at stock voltage. will overclock to 1.15 Ghz with voltage tweaking. if you get lucky even higher. It would be competitive against a 1250 Mhz GTX 670. For a USD 90 difference the HD 7950 is the better price performer. And if you are going for 1440p in future definitely HD 7950 is the better option. In the games which are most demanding and where the performance is really required HD 7950 will win more games. Alan Wake, Metro 2033, Crysis Warhead, Dirt Showdown, Witcher 2, Anno 2070 all will be faster on HD 7950 OC . BF3 at 1080p will have a slight edge on Nvidia. But both cards overclocked will do 60 fps. Crysis 2 also will run similarly on both cards overclocked. Shogun 2 will be faster on Nvidia. Batman AC (FXAA) will be faster on GTX 670 but MSAA (8x) perf will be similar . With the latest drivers even games like skyrim and Dirt 3 will be slightly ahead on HD 7950 OC (1150) compared to GTX 670 OC(1250).
Edited by raghu78 - 7/8/12 at 6:41pm
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post #69 of 71
7/10/12 at 1:06am
The new MSI TF3 HD7950s are starting to be made with reference HD7970 PCBs.


http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1038920569#post1038920569


Looks nice.
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10/28/12 at 3:27am
GA 7950 with new 12.11 ccc with stock cooler wink.gif





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