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Originally Posted by forever109 View Post

the truth is if IB can oc to what everyone were expectng long ago.
arond 5.5 average on loop. 5.0 on air.
who going to buy their SB-E cpus..

SB-Es selling point isn't clock speeds, although they are very good at that as well.
Edited by Outlawed - 5/12/12 at 8:00pm
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I thought THIS already dispelled the rumor.
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Someone on OCN should buy some Liquid Pro and do this...........

So for testing , what TIM would be needed to use on the ihs exactly. Im bored and for the sake of science will possibly destroy my 3770k to see if it really would make a difference in temps thumb.gif
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Like the old saying goes, you're only as strong as your weakest link.
 
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SB-Es selling point isn't clock speed, although they are very good at that as well.

Let's be honest, if Ivy Bridge could overclock to 5.5 Ghz with the same ease that SB can overclock to 5 Ghz, or to 5.3 Ghz with the same ease as SB does 4.8 Ghz, that would mean around a 700 - 750 Mhz clockspeed deficit (factoring in the IPC improvements).

There is some market for consumer level workstations, but let's be honest, Intel regains the investment from the enthusiast sales.

Quad channel memory is nice, but Ivy Bridge has the same native DDR3 1600 memory controller with two channels, which is plenty for now. 16 lanes of PCIe 3.0 is also enough for now and there is the possibility of motherboards with a PLX chip. On top of that, Z77 has native USB 3.0.

Now tell me, who would buy an i7-3820 ? The entry level CPU that gets Intel to sell more X79 chipsets would no longer sell. The 3960X is already a niche market. And given the clockspeed deficit I mentioned, even the 3930K, with its additional power consumption and higher price, would be a hard sell.

In my opinion Intel timed the release of SB-e wrong and now they have a problem. With X58 that wasn't a problem. For more than a year it was the undisputed flagship, because it was launched first, and even when Intel launched the 1156 platform, the competing quad cores were on the same manufacturing process. 32nm on the 1156 platform was reserved for dual cores only, so as not to compete with Nehalem.
 
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Well ... OCN is a reputable source. OCN has single handedly caused the sale of 10k korean monitors thanks to brucethemoose.

We (not me as of yet) produce quality product reviews and hold a major stronghold in all that is computer technology. I'm willing to bet someone on OCN bought a few extra IB's for personal binning: why not experiment with one of the lower binned unit and let truth triumph. (Apparently in ye olde days of P3 or K9, you could improve your temps by 8-10C when you replaced the bad TIM under the IHS)
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Well ... OCN is a reputable source. OCN has single handedly caused the sale of 10k korean monitors thanks to brucethemoose.
We (not me as of yet) produce quality product reviews and hold a major stronghold in all that is computer technology. I'm willing to bet someone on OCN bought a few extra IB's for personal binning: why not experiment with one of the lower binned unit and let truth triumph. (Apparently in ye olde days of P3 or K9, you could improve your temps by 8-10C when you replaced the bad TIM under the IHS)

+5$

To anyone that want to cross-check these results with proper thermal compound. I'd be pleased to fund the research before buying IB. We need a professional experiment.
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+5$
To anyone that want to cross-check these results with proper thermal compound. I'd be pleased to fund the research before buying IB. We need a professional experiment.

I'll contribute to the cause too! If done properly the CPU will be just fine to be used just as any other and can be put to good use on one of OCNs initiatives.
 
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Flux-less solder rolleyes.gif Where is that pic of the SB with the die torn off showing the solder, so I can point out the flux.
 
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SB-Es selling point isn't clock speeds, although they are very good at that as well.

Exactly. You have more cores, more threads, and most importantly more cache.
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