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Goooooooood...(looks at clock) morning everyone, I know there are many helpful guides and tips on pc building,
buuut, i'd like some personal advice from some experienced people myself.
I'm looking to build this computer for multiple programs, some of them being ran simultaneously:

Adobe Photoshop
3D Studio Max
ZBrush
Unreal Engine
GuildWars 2
(maybe Tera from time ot time, I have an account, but I prefer guild wars 2 once its released)

Im also looking to use it for 3 monitors, as well as a Wacom Cintiq 21UX
I've always been a fan of AMD, but until now ive only been buying already made pc's and just upgrading the RAM, Video Card, and power supply.

I have spoken to someone at a local computer store, and this is the list he put together for me according to my usage needs/wants, and what he felt works best together.

Asus Crosshair V motherboard

G Skill 2x8GB DDR3 2133 Ripjaws RAM

FX-8150 8 core Bulldozer Turbo up to 4.2GHz

Vertex 3 120GB SSD

Western Digital 1TB 64MB cache storage drive

Antec TPQ-1200W Modular power supply (I want to make use of the crossfire capabilities of multiple video cards, so he recommended a video card that would support it.

Carbide 400R high air flow mid tower case (currently researching other useful cases =p )

XFX Radeon 6870 2GB GDDR5
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This list is no where near finalized, which is why I am here.
1. I have the money, but just because I have it doesn't mean I should just go out and buy the top of everything when it most likely isnt worth it, meaning theres possibly a far more less expensive build that would perform even better depending on how well the parts work together.

ANY and ALL advice would be highly appreciated,
as a plane run down of what I want in the machine
I do want 16 GB of Ram, I want an 8 core, but i've noticed some many complaints about the processors usa and worth.
Im not far into the vast well of knowledge when it comes to computer hardware, so Im not sure if their are any motherboards capable of running 3 video cards at once, Id honestly be fine running three 1GB video cards that can all work well together

I'd love any information you can provide and look forward to it. I'd mostly love to know how, and why (rofl, pretty much one in the same) what parts work best together. I really want to begin gaining a huge understanding of computer hardware, modding, and etx.If anyone has a link for an intermediate, id be thankful for that as well.
Thank you all in advance

~Later days
post #2 of 17
3DSMax and Unreal Engine (UDK) will be the most demanding on your system

I suggest you scratch the 1200w PSU because any 800w will be fine for xfire or SLI
Also scratch the Phenom FX.
Now use the money you save from not buying the 1200w psu and FX and get a better CPU like an i7 2600K or i7 3820

You'll want the fastest cpu you can get to decrease the loading times on those programs.
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hi , to start it off you dont realy need the most expensive AMD motherboard for your build , also dont need a 1200w PSU unless you wanna run 6-7 HD 6870s , and yeah bulldozer is not a quality CPU when it comes to gaming and even video editing , dont let the 8 core fool you , a decent intel CPU with 4 cores and 8 threads will give twice performance for nearly same price , give me a moment ill scrap up a build for ya. oh btw where you're buying your parts from ?

something like this should provide much more performance : http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8aud

that 2011 CPU is a beast paired with quad chanel overclocked samsung rams , case and power supply are personal preference your not gonna need more then 850w for tripple SLI 560 and overclocked CPU (the reason i went nvidia as it will improve your photoshop performance by a mile)
Edited by RabbitGT - 5/13/12 at 5:03am
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hi , to start it off you dont realy need the most expensive AMD motherboard for your build , also dont need a 1200w PSU unless you wanna run 6-7 HD 6870s , and yeah bulldozer is not a quality CPU when it comes to gaming and even video editing , dont let the 8 core fool you , a decent intel CPU with 4 cores and 8 threads will give twice performance for nearly same price , give me a moment ill scrap up a build for ya. oh btw where you're buying your parts from ?
something like this should provide much more performance : http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8aud
that 2011 CPU is a beast paired with quad chanel overclocked samsung rams , case and power supply are personal preference your not gonna need more then 850w for tripple SLI 560 and overclocked CPU (the reason i went nvidia as it will improve your photoshop performance by a mile)
I personally do not like that build because the 3820 is only a partially unlocked processor, and you don't need 2011 at all since photoshop does not even use all 6 cores.
You are correct that bulldozer isn't the quality CPU and you don't need the most expensive AMD motherboard.

OP, please tell us your budget so we can help you out a lil more.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8aBR

Oh, and btw, that s not quad channel it is dual channel tongue.gif

AMD is trying to make it to the long run because they expect applications like photoshop to be heavily threaded in the future, but it's a risky decision. Photoshop is CUDA accelerated so it will work better with Nvidia cards.
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I personally do not like that build because the 3820 is only a partially unlocked processor, and you don't need 2011 at all since photoshop does not even use all 6 cores.
You are correct that bulldozer isn't the quality CPU and you don't need the most expensive AMD motherboard.
OP, please tell us your budget so we can help you out a lil more.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8aBR
Oh, and btw, that s not quad channel it is dual channel tongue.gif
AMD is trying to make it to the long run because they expect applications like photoshop to be heavily threaded in the future, but it's a risky decision. Photoshop is CUDA accelerated so it will work better with Nvidia cards.

3820 is a quad core. it does have ht when needed.

EDIT: though it is locked - it overclocks like a monster. but might be overkill for op's adobe use.
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3820 is a quad core. it does have ht when needed.
EDIT: though it is locked - it overclocks like a monster. but might be overkill for op's adobe use.
I should have worded that differently, I was aware that it was a quad core. Honestly he should go for 1155 as the 3770K/2600K also has HT and overclocks even better than the 3820.

Also 2011 has expensive as hell motherboards.
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lol, my budgets around 1200-2000.
And i'm here different facts from people that contradict eachother over and over.
Im thinking that as far as GPU's and CPU's go its more about personal preferences. Some say Radeon is better for the programs ill be using, and some say geforce,
same with intel and amd. I will say that im not really a fan of intel, over the course of nearly a decade ive heard far more good leaning towards amd for gaming and design even after the i-cores were released. Main one being that intel is better for running a single program and it being able to use its full potential, but i have a habit of running programs side by side that all work together (hence autodesk programs and zbrush which work together, and photoshop as well that works with 3ds max, well thats my workflow anyhow).
Ive also never been a face of geforce. Is there any convincing/proving information that anyone could contribute that could make me think otherwise?
Also, thank you for the information youve all given so far, I appreciate you taking the time out of your days to tell me what you prefer.
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Avoid getting a GTX 560Ti - I've heard it has a lot of problems with Tera & other games on the same engine for no apparent reason.
    
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lol, my budgets around 1200-2000.
And i'm here different facts from people that contradict eachother over and over.
Im thinking that as far as GPU's and CPU's go its more about personal preferences. Some say Radeon is better for the programs ill be using, and some say geforce,
same with intel and amd. I will say that im not really a fan of intel, over the course of nearly a decade ive heard far more good leaning towards amd for gaming and design even after the i-cores were released. Main one being that intel is better for running a single program and it being able to use its full potential, but i have a habit of running programs side by side that all work together (hence autodesk programs and zbrush which work together, and photoshop as well that works with 3ds max, well thats my workflow anyhow).
Ive also never been a face of geforce. Is there any convincing/proving information that anyone could contribute that could make me think otherwise?
Also, thank you for the information youve all given so far, I appreciate you taking the time out of your days to tell me what you prefer.

Go with intel buddy. Specifically an i7 2600k or i7 3770k with a Z77 motherboard. You won't get Hyper threading with an i5 They are much better at almost everything these days, including multitasking. Here's some benchmarks http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/434?vs=287

Remember the 3770k is 5-10% improvement over the 2600k.
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i7-2600K/2700K/3770K/3820/3930K... don't bother with AMD

any decent motherboard (p67/z68/z77/x79)

16GB+ RAM (Corsair/G.Skill)

any decent SSD/high performance HDD

any higher-end NVIDIA graphics card

any decent suitable power supply

you won't benefit from running cards in SLI or CrossfireX for those applications other than gaming.
if you like i can put together a system list for you.. but just giving you a rough outline.

i've been working with maya, 3ds max, zbrush etc. for over four years, so if you need any other help or advice shoot me a pm.

good luck smile.gif
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