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I'm on the fence of buying a SSD/HDD or just HDD/HDD for my current computer build.

Yeah.. I don't have time, care, or knowledge on all the tweaks and insignificant setups that some geeks perform during their SSD setup.

All I want to do is setup my SSD with what may be "required", and maybe some tweaks (I said maybe). Really don't want to deal with any confusing and intense procedures that will leave me anxious and all puffy like; then to only leave me the next day not remember ONE thing I did during the installation process. I'm a blowfish, keep it simple.

However, I do want to do things right.

First off, the SSD. It looks like a few of them really have some downers. I'm not sure which manufacture/model I will choose yet, but most likely it will be around 60GB (cost less), because that's all I really need. I understand the importance of partition alignment, otherwise since I'm choosing such a smaller space sized drive I have no plans to partition the SSD.

Upon further reading, I plan to update the SSD to the latest firmware (before installing windows) release if need be. Apparently some models had some unstable issue until updated.

Secondly, I will be using Windows 7 Home 64-bit. Trim should be active? I hear Windows 7 will automatically remove SSD from the defrag list; if I where to use another defragging software would it do the same thing? I imagine, but I worry I will forget some day and defragg my SSD...rolleyes.gif

I plan to disable drive indexing on the SSD.

I know to set SATA controller to AHCI Mode instead of IDE, whatever that is. Yes, I will do this before installing the OS.

My current motherboard. I've owned it since 2009, and it has treated me well so I'm thinking instead of buying something new maybe I will just re-use it.
Asus M4A785TD-M EVO AM3 socket

The BIOS does support AHCI, but it seems funny. Here is what I read in BIOS:

"If Port1-4 are configured as [IDE] Port5-6 can only be configured as [IDE]"
"If Port5-6 are configured as [AHCI], the ports can only be used under OS with AHCI driver installed. Set to [IDE] instead of [AHCI] to access devices on Port5-6 before entering OS."


I'm a bit lost here, I'm not sure how to read that. Why can't I just choose one as AHCI? Is this how the fancy Intel Z68/Z75/Z77 type boards are too? I don't even know why it gives me "6" when I only have 5 SATA motherboard connectors.


Finally, is there anything else that could be considered a "must do"?
Edited by Volp - 5/13/12 at 4:18pm
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I just got an M4 as my first SSD and this guide really helped me out:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1156654/seans-windows-7-install-optimization-guide-for-ssds-hdds

You may have read this already but it answers a lot of questions thumb.gif
 
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I just got an M4 as my first SSD and this guide really helped me out:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1156654/seans-windows-7-install-optimization-guide-for-ssds-hdds
You may have read this already but it answers a lot of questions thumb.gif

yes I read that guide, its really helped me; however, as the point I am trying to make across this thread -- I want something more easily done, something that I will remember doing the next day.. or next year during my annual re-formats biggrin.gif

Maybe I will just go with a HDD
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To be honest you can just throw in an SSD and just use it with windows tongue.gif The only important thing for me would be just to move my users folder. You can even "take notes" the first time you go through that guide and note down the steps that you personally follow. The guide looks huge, but I actually skipped a lot of those. It just looks very long because it goes through everything step by step.
 
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If you don't feel like setting it up completely then I would just do the following:

1. Install Windows
2. Turn off/shrink hibernation
3. Install all drivers then restart
4. Install updates
5. Move user folders
6. Turn off UAC
7. Call it a day.

If you are one to do an annual re-install but don't want to set it up everytime but want all the benefits of the various tweaks then an even better option is to complete the entire install with both hardrives, drivers, and then essential programs. After you have done that then make a system image. When you want to "refresh" your system then just reimage the system and it will take you back to that finished point. This is by far the easiest way to deal with not remembering every step along the way.
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Get the Crucial m4 128GB... they are for 110$ today on amazon frown.gif
http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-2-5-Inch-Solid-State-CT128M4SSD2/dp/B004W2JKZI/

Or Samsung 830 128GB...
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-MZ-7PC128B-128GB-Internal-2-5-Inch/dp/B0077CR60Q/

They are both great drives and there are many others, the choice is yours

Read Sean's guide of course

Good Luck smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Volp View Post

I'm on the fence of buying a SSD/HDD or just HDD/HDD for my current computer build.
Yeah.. I don't have time, care, or knowledge on all the tweaks and insignificant setups that some geeks perform during their SSD setup.
All I want to do is setup my SSD with what may be "required", and maybe some tweaks (I said maybe). Really don't want to deal with any confusing and intense procedures that will leave me anxious and all puffy like; then to only leave me the next day not remember ONE thing I did during the installation process. I'm a blowfish, keep it simple.
However, I do want to do things right.
First off, the SSD. It looks like a few of them really have some downers. I'm not sure which manufacture/model I will choose yet, but most likely it will be around 60GB (cost less), because that's all I really need. I understand the importance of partition alignment, otherwise since I'm choosing such a smaller space sized drive I have no plans to partition the SSD.
Upon further reading, I plan to update the SSD to the latest firmware (before installing windows) release if need be. Apparently some models had some unstable issue until updated.
Secondly, I will be using Windows 7 Home 64-bit. Trim should be active? I hear Windows 7 will automatically remove SSD from the defrag list; if I where to use another defragging software would it do the same thing? I imagine, but I worry I will forget some day and defragg my SSD...rolleyes.gif
I plan to disable drive indexing on the SSD.
I know to set SATA controller to AHCI Mode instead of IDE, whatever that is. Yes, I will do this before installing the OS.
My current motherboard. I've owned it since 2009, and it has treated me well so I'm thinking instead of buying something new maybe I will just re-use it.
Asus M4A785TD-M EVO AM3 socket
The BIOS does support AHCI, but it seems funny. Here is what I read in BIOS:
"If Port1-4 are configured as [IDE] Port5-6 can only be configured as [IDE]"
"If Port5-6 are configured as [AHCI], the ports can only be used under OS with AHCI driver installed. Set to [IDE] instead of [AHCI] to access devices on Port5-6 before entering OS."

I'm a bit lost here, I'm not sure how to read that. Why can't I just choose one as AHCI? Is this how the fancy Intel Z68/Z75/Z77 type boards are too? I don't even know why it gives me "6" when I only have 5 SATA motherboard connectors.

Finally, is there anything else that could be considered a "must do"?

I have that same motherboard. As long as you just have SATA drives plugged in then just set all of them to ACHI and your shoudn't run into any problems. If you have an IDE drives then it's different. (Don't forget about the IDE connector towards the ATX power supply.)

As far as using another defrag software just make sure it doesn't automatically run and defrag the SSD when you install the software.

I always turn off the shrink/hiber file as it can take up a bit of room and really isn't nessesary unless you actual hibernate instead of sleep or shutdown your pc.
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