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Our infrastructure could definitely use a ton of improvement, that's for sure.
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$10 billion dollars....on a train....I would have thought that there were more pressing issues that would benefit from that kind of money!!mad.gif
....the train will reduce gas wasted, increase productivity, and create addition synergy between the two cities....

Build the infrastructure.... let the businesses grow.
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Yea, we could put it towards our national debt! That would shave off a good 0.06% rolleyes.gif
Yeah... it is silly that people focus on the national debt since the solution is to do what has always been done... grow grow grow!

Debt << Debt/GDP ratio.
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Yeah... it is silly that people focus on the national debt since the solution is to do what has always been done... grow grow grow!
Debt << Debt/GDP ratio.

Interest is a wicked woman. We'd be better off with a surplus, and letting others borrow from us.
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love the 80mph speed limit!!

often do 110+ in my truck!! biggrin.gif

love my QA1 adjustable coilovers and front and rear sway bars with wide tires for the corners!!

I may have to ride this bad boy since I often travel to the ol DFW area biggrin.gif
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My father routinely travels to Houston for business. Has some vacation sometimes in Fort Worth though. I think he'd be in favor of it.

Costly but probably alotta fun...lol
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Interest is a wicked woman. We'd be better off with a surplus, and letting others borrow from us.
Interest can be bad... but if the rates are at 2% and while GDP is at 2.5%... borrow, borrow, borrow to invest in worthwhile projects with a good ROI.

Of course, a surplus is better.

Actually, letting others borrow from us can be a BAD thing... that means there is nothing else to invest in. If there is nothing else to invest in, then you are not generating new ideas or industries fast enough. (See China)
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perhaps feeding the starving africans is more important than government spending in the US?

$10 billion is a lot, could go a long way toward improvements in lots of areas...hell, it's more than 1/3 of NASA's 2012 budget. I'd rather see a space train.
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An international investment group plans to put up $10 billion to build a 220-mph bullet train connecting Dallas and Houston, according to the Fort Worth Star-Telegram.

The investors, led by Central Japan Railway Co., say they will not seek any state or federal funds to operate the high-speed rail line, which could be running by 2020, the Star-Telegram reported Wednesday.!

So did anyone actual read the story's first two lines? This is a private investment. They can invest it wherever they see fit.
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Interest can be bad... but if the rates are at 2% and while GDP is at 2.5%... borrow, borrow, borrow to invest in worthwhile projects with a good ROI.

Borrowing on margin is a questionable financial practice for an individual let alone a treasury. Please show evidence of a nation that has systematically borrowed against its GDP for protracted periods of time and is still solvent. I am honestly quite curious.
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sounds like your suspension is old for you to be dipping that much to be losing control at 85.
At any ratei wonder if it'll end up anything like the CA one where we voted for $10 bil but now its gonna cost us $80 bil
I was thinking about the Cali high speed rail program when I saw this too.
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....the train will reduce gas wasted, increase productivity, and create addition synergy between the two cities....
Build the infrastructure.... let the businesses grow.
Yeah... it is silly that people focus on the national debt since the solution is to do what has always been done... grow grow grow!
Debt << Debt/GDP ratio.

Those are good points. There is a high-speed rail that runs through NM.

I'm torn on these things. I always complain about the sub-standard high-speed mass transit in the US, but on the other hand, our geographical distribution of population isn't very conducive to that. I did feel that in California, the proposed ~$100B price tag on the HSR project was on the exorbitent side, especially since the governor proposed (and IIRC executed) cuts to public education just to offset the funding of the rail (apologies if that steers things to a "political" taste). Debt/GDP ratio is one thing, but crippling an already retarded educational system to fund a project that could help to spur more businesses, grow the local economies, and generate more revenue--that's risky. Take the rail in NM--the fares imposed on riders each month don't even cover their monthly operating costs.

Anyhoo, train top speeds are one thing, I'm more interested to know what the proposed average speed between stops will be. A study was done on the NM one, and average speeds between stops are only around 55-70mph, and it was found that the trains are less energy-efficient than if the riders drove instead of taking the train (which I read as meaning that not enough people are using the train, probably because of the first reason--speed is lackluster).

That doesn't mean that new trains will suck, only that this particular example didn't work well. But IIRC in initial studies and pre-construction reports, it was stated that the train would perform better than it actually does (which makes me skeptical).
    
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This is pointless. everyone in texas knows how god awfly long it takes to repair and upkeep the most traveled roads, Assuming its a direct route, it would be very dumb, the only other major stop between DFW and Houston is the College Station area, it would be much more logical and a less waste of money if they connected from Houston to Austin, then up I-35 to DFW, hitting the temple killeen area and Waco on its way up. The Idea of taking a train around in texas seems cool, ( I would use it if it connected through Austin, as I travel to houston and DFW quite a bit )

Even if a train can do 200mph, I'm highly guessing its average speed will only be 60mph tops...

but as far as the road speed limit goes, out in the rual areas, its not uncommon for traffic to be doing 15 over the speedlimit
quite often, heading from Waco to DFW on I-35, the flow of traffic can be 90mph in some areas, while still being passed by soccer moms
in their SUV's.

IMO, gun control laws and gay marrage have a better chance of passing in Texas gov before this train does.

Also note, that there was an Idea for A Cen-Tex corridor, basically, another more dircect interstate highway connecting DFW to Austin and it was cut down rather quickly.
Edited by Jixr - 5/14/12 at 10:28am
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