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News just in: AMD's dead.
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News just in: AMD's dead.

AMD already said they were out of the high performance desktop.

But I fail to see how Intel saying they are working on new processes is death to AMD. What about nVIDIA? Qualcomm? Samsung? STMicro? OnSemi? Fairchild? Microchip? Atmel? All the companies that work with high technology silicon devices?

The difference between Intel and TSMC/GlobalFoundries is that they don't announce stuff here and there five years before even starting to produce prototypes...
   
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post #43 of 132
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Paul Otellini, chief executive of Intel Corp. said that the company had begun to work on 7nm a 5am process technologies. The company's plans now are to equip its Oregon, Arizona and Irelands fabs to make chips using 14nm fabrication processes.
"Our research and development is quite deep, I talk about ten years," said Paul Otellini, chief executive of Intel.
Source

I suppose this is a typo, or they'd have some indeed amazingly small CPUs...
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imagine THE HEAT this thing its going to dump !!!

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imagine THE HEAT this thing its going to dump !!!
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Ivy doesn't dump a lot of heat. These won't dump a lot of heat either. The overall heat generated by these will be far lower... just more concentrated, unless innovations keep that in check.
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why doesn't intel work on gluing 4 processors to make one instead of trying to go to the atomic limitation??
    
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why doesn't intel work on gluing 4 processors to make one instead of trying to go to the atomic limitation??

Why not do both? I'm sure Intel's already looking into TSV.
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Ivy doesn't dump a lot of heat. These won't dump a lot of heat either. The overall heat generated by these will be far lower... just more concentrated, unless innovations keep that in check.

It is actually two things.... heat density and heat leakage.

Of course, these will be more dense.
However, these (like all new processes) will also be leaky as well until the process matures. This is most likely the issue with Ivy.

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why doesn't intel work on gluing 4 processors to make one instead of trying to go to the atomic limitation??
...quad-cores have been done.

The answer to your question is "Amdahl's law": www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl's_law
"The speedup of a program using multiple processors in parallel computing is limited by the time needed for the sequential fraction of the program."

More cores will hit a workload limit always. Faster cores will never hit a workload limit (assuming sub-systems are capable of keeping up).
Edited by DuckieHo - 5/14/12 at 9:40am
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It is actually two things.... heat density and heat leakage.

Right... the overall heat produced is still significantly lower though. Claiming that Ivy Bridge is "dumping lots of heat" is a misunderstanding of thermodynamics.
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I have a feeling that graphene is going to be hoarded for a while before it makes its way to the consumer market. Even if they debuted at only 100 GHz, the improvement over silicon is ridiculous.

At 100 "ghz" I would hope it would be an imrpovement over silicon!!! my i5 runs great at 4 ghz.... tongue.gif
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