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Nvidia has bad drivers.
Nvidia has bad drivers.
And ati's are worse.
After several years of owning both sides, nvidia is the better overall choice for the average gamer.
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Originally Posted by Slightly skewed
And ati's are worse.
After several years of owning both sides, nvidia is the better overall choice for the average gamer.
And ati's are worse.
After several years of owning both sides, nvidia is the better overall choice for the average gamer.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slightly skewed
And ati's are worse.
After several years of owning both sides, nvidia is the better overall choice for the average gamer.
And ati's are worse.
After several years of owning both sides, nvidia is the better overall choice for the average gamer.
It is a race to the bottom imho. Both companies drivers has their ups and downs.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slightly skewed
And ati's are worse.
After several years of owning both sides, nvidia is the better overall choice for the average gamer.
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Originally Posted by Riou
Nvidia has bad drivers.
Nvidia has bad drivers.
And ati's are worse.
After several years of owning both sides, nvidia is the better overall choice for the average gamer.
For me, the experience has always been exactly the opposite. Nvidia drivers have ALWAYS been hit or miss stability wise for me. AMD / ATI drivers have ALWAYS just flat out worked correctly for me. Never once a serious issue. With Nvidia, I'd always get locked in 2D clocks (on stable clocks mind you), I lost a GPU due to the driver that caused overheating in 2010, folding problems (why I quit bothering to fold on GPU's honestly....I can't update past 266.58 on any of my Nvidia cards)....
To me personally, AMD drivers have always been near perfect. The only complaint I have with them right now, is that GTA IV doesn't play smoothly regardless of the settings. That's one game out of hundreds that I own, so I'm not that bothered by it.
Nvidia on the other hand, its pretty sad that all my Nvidia cards are STILL stuck on 266.58 because anything newer causes crashing.
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For me, the experience has always been exactly the opposite. Nvidia drivers have ALWAYS been hit or miss stability wise for me. AMD / ATI drivers have ALWAYS just flat out worked correctly for me. Never once a serious issue. With Nvidia, I'd always get locked in 2D clocks (on stable clocks mind you), I lost a GPU due to the driver that caused overheating in 2010, folding problems (why I quit bothering to fold on GPU's honestly....I can't update past 266.58 on any of my Nvidia cards)....
To me personally, AMD drivers have always been near perfect. The only complaint I have with them right now, is that GTA IV doesn't play smoothly regardless of the settings. That's one game out of hundreds that I own, so I'm not that bothered by it.
Nvidia on the other hand, its pretty sad that all my Nvidia cards are STILL stuck on 266.58 because anything newer causes crashing.
For me, the experience has always been exactly the opposite. Nvidia drivers have ALWAYS been hit or miss stability wise for me. AMD / ATI drivers have ALWAYS just flat out worked correctly for me. Never once a serious issue. With Nvidia, I'd always get locked in 2D clocks (on stable clocks mind you), I lost a GPU due to the driver that caused overheating in 2010, folding problems (why I quit bothering to fold on GPU's honestly....I can't update past 266.58 on any of my Nvidia cards)....
To me personally, AMD drivers have always been near perfect. The only complaint I have with them right now, is that GTA IV doesn't play smoothly regardless of the settings. That's one game out of hundreds that I own, so I'm not that bothered by it.
Nvidia on the other hand, its pretty sad that all my Nvidia cards are STILL stuck on 266.58 because anything newer causes crashing.
Exactly the opposite for me. Only problems with ATi/AMD drivers and just smooth sailing with NV's drivers. Of course this might be due to multi GPU setups but still.
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I have had 5 times as many dead Nvidia cards than ATI/AMD cards in the past 5 years. That does not necessarily mean I think Nvidia makes bad products.
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I have had 5 times as many dead Nvidia cards than ATI/AMD cards in the past 5 years. That does not necessarily mean I think Nvidia makes bad products.
I have had 5 times as many dead Nvidia cards than ATI/AMD cards in the past 5 years. That does not necessarily mean I think Nvidia makes bad products.
Have you owned 5 times as many Nvidia cards than ATI cards?
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It's this sort of mentality that makes me cringe. A hard launch is wonderful IF a manufacturer continues to churn out stocks. Going out of stock for a few days isn't a bad thing. A week? That's alright... but 2 weeks? A month?
Nvidia is batting 1000 on the technology front and about 50 on availability. For that reason, I consider Kepler a fundamental failure. What's the point in releasing a product to the public if you can't even get close to meeting demand? It makes nvidia look bad from a business standpoint.
It's this sort of mentality that makes me cringe. A hard launch is wonderful IF a manufacturer continues to churn out stocks. Going out of stock for a few days isn't a bad thing. A week? That's alright... but 2 weeks? A month?
Nvidia is batting 1000 on the technology front and about 50 on availability. For that reason, I consider Kepler a fundamental failure. What's the point in releasing a product to the public if you can't even get close to meeting demand? It makes nvidia look bad from a business standpoint.
This argument is useless without knowing the real numbers of how many cards were / are being actually sold.
Did you even consider that nVidia might be selling WAY more with Kepler than AMD did with their 7970 launch?
Judging by what I've seen in this forum this is pretty much the case. That's not a failure for me and would pretty much account for the terrible availability.
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Lack of availability provides no information on supply and demand curves. It just means demand is greater than supply. This happens with many very successful product... especially in niche markets.
Lack of availability provides no information on supply and demand curves. It just means demand is greater than supply. This happens with many very successful product... especially in niche markets.
So true, quoted for truth.
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