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Old tech with new higher price.
sorry but
WUXGA 1920x1200 15.4" screen have been out for a while. apple playing catch up game
Even with 1280 x 800 on this 14" screen I can not even see the pixels.(normal viewing distance )
I would agree, if they were calling 1920x1200 a triumph. They're aiming higher than that. (I hope..)
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Higher pixel density for the sake of a slightly sharper image compared to more realistic resolutions for practical purposes. In all honesty, all you gain from a slightly sharper image is a battery drainage that is horrific.
I doubt they'll tolerant much loss on battery life. It's Apple we're talking about.
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Anyone think they can squeeze in powerful gpu's like 675M into the new Macs? GPU is the most important thing for me.
Not into the new MBP's, with their form factor. But iMacs get the top-of-the-line mobile GPUs, and if they stuck with AMD again, they'll get the 7970m, which is a total beast.
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5/14/12 at 7:48pm
For once a thread about assle that I actually like! This should make higher res screens/monitors more common and we'll move on from the 1080x1920 standard soon'nuff.
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Just an FYI for those that will be concerned about resolution vs. graphics performance, keep in mind the high DPI (resolution) virtually eliminates the need for antialiasing. With a higher level GPU, these will still 'game' well, even though that's not what these machines will be built for.
That puzzle game on dashboard will look SICK!
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So, Retina display just means higher res? I'm not quite sure I understand.
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I'm not quite sure you understand.
Edited by BlackVenom - 5/14/12 at 7:52pm
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Yeah Retina will eliminate the need for AA but its going to take 2 x GPU power to drive extra resolution.
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5/14/12 at 8:13pm
Intel released a road map for future screen sizes it will support, very similar to this.

Im all for this, My iPad 3 and iPhone 4S screen are amazing, and to have a 27 or 30" screen at 4k would be just as amazing, if only IPS and 120Hz could also be thrown in there...
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5/14/12 at 8:22pm
Even if you hate Apple, the nice thing about this rumor if it pans out is that other manufacturers might finally stop shipping ****ty screens with their laptops. It's pretty depressing that notebook reviewers do somersaults whenever they get a 1440x900 resolution while my cheaper iPad has a 9" screen with a 2048x1536 resolution.
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5/14/12 at 8:24pm
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Intel released a road map for future screen sizes it will support, very similar to this.
Im all for this, My iPad 3 and iPhone 4S screen are amazing, and to have a 27 or 30" screen at 4k would be just as amazing, if only IPS and 120Hz could also be thrown in there...

IPS would be fantastic. I have an iMac which has an IPS display and a Macbook Air which does not and the off-angle performance of the Air's screen is pretty much the only thing I wish was better on that laptop (it's still a much nicer screen than what is found in most other laptops). I got the 27" iMac so I could use it to watch video from a distance (say, from my couch or while lying in bed) so the viewing angles are great, but with a laptop it would be nice to have wider viewing angles so I don't have to adjust the tilt angle of the screen every time I move my head.
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5/14/12 at 8:30pm
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I think it's for certain that we'll see the 7000M series GPUs in the new MacBook Pro's as well as the new iMac's, I expect they'll use the 7750/70 and/or 7850/70 in the former, and the 7850/70 in all but the highest 27 inch iMac model which should use the 7970M 2GB.

Rumours point that the new Macbook Pros will use Nvidia GT 650Ms. They have very similar performance to the 7770Ms though.
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Yeah Retina will eliminate the need for AA but its going to take 2 x GPU power to drive extra resolution.

I think any reasonable person would game on the half resolution (xres/2 * yres/2) with current mobile GPU solutions. Otherwise, gaming would be infeasible in most cases.
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5/14/12 at 8:36pm
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The displays are higher resolution, but they don't provide more work space like you would normally get from a higher resolution. Instead, the resolution is raised while keeping things on the screen the same size, thus increasing the sharpness and quality of what is on the screen. That is what a "retina" display is in a nutshell..

The "sizing" of items on the display is implemented entirely in software. As for the hardware, it simply is a high resolution LCD panel.
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5/14/12 at 8:39pm
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Intel's current IVB IGPU can easily run applications smooth at 1600p+ and play Skyrim at 1050p on medium settings at over 30fps or most games at high fidelity at a resolution of 720p. The only exception being Battlefield 3 & Metro 2033. Hardware acceleration hardly requires 3D clocks, so most of the GPU will likely sit idle anyway.

However, more is better and Haswell GT3 looks to deliver with 100% increase in gaming performance
That's good to know as that's what we'll be getting in the MacBook Air and likely the 13 inch MacBook Pro as well. Is that for desktop CPUs or mobile CPUs though?
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How would those in the MBP's compare to current 675M's, nvidia's top mobile gpu at the moment? I know the 7970m is a beast.
Here's a chart: notebookcheck

There's no frame rates listed for the 7750/70 or 7850/70 yet so it's hard to say. I'd guess that the 7870 would be around 70% of the GTX 675 but I could be drastically wrong tongue.gif
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Yeah Retina will eliminate the need for AA but its going to take 2 x GPU power to drive extra resolution.
It'll require anywhere from 2x up to 4x more power, and in some instances even more. Worst case scenario though is to run the game at the non Hi-DPI native resolution.
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5/14/12 at 8:42pm
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I think it's for certain that we'll see the 7000M series GPUs in the new MacBook Pro's as well as the new iMac's, I expect they'll use the 7750/70 and/or 7850/70 in the former, and the 7850/70 in all but the highest 27 inch iMac model which should use the 7970M 2GB.

Rumours point that the new Macbook Pros will use Nvidia GT 650Ms. They have very similar performance to the 7770Ms though.

I think any reasonable person would game on the half resolution (xres/2 * yres/2) with current mobile GPU solutions. Otherwise, gaming would be infeasible in most cases.
Mmm, I hope they stay with AMD in the iMac though since the 7970M's da bomb.
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