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post #1 of 11
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Hi guys, thanks for looking!

I'm planning to upgrade my current PC as at the moment I'm not getting what I need out of it. I play Battlefield 3 competitively, have a 120Hz monitor and require 120 FPS as much of the time as I can get it. I play BF3 @ 1080p on the lowest graphics settings. With my current rig I fluctuate between 60-100 FPS with the occasional 20-30 FPS spike in either direction. I'm after a solid 120 FPS whilst running a PC that's not overly hot or loud.

Here are the specs of what I've got now:

MOBO: Intel DP67BA
CPU: i7 2600
GPU: Sapphire HD6970
CASE: CoolerMaster Centurion 5 II with 500W
PSU: "Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus RS-500-PCAR-J3 500W ATX12V V2.3 Power Supply"
HDD: 2TB Seagate Barracuda

Important things to note about current setup:

1. Current motherboard does not allow me to over-clock my CPU
2. Current motherboard does not allow Crossfire or SLI
3. Case supports GPU up to 27cm or 10inch in length
4. GPU is @ 100% usage (or close to) when running BF3, it is what is currently bottlenecking my FPS

Now unfortunately I don't have a huge budget to be spending here. It's likely that I'd only be able to spend $3-400 (maybe $500 at the very most) at a time on parts every couple of months so picking the right part that can slot in with the previous parts to improve the system is ideal.

With all this in mind, how would the lovely members of overclock.net go about upgrading this system if they were under the same constraints? First and foremost I wish to address the FPS issue then to go about reducing heat/noise. What products should I be looking at?
post #2 of 11
if you can spent a bit over $500, IMHO you should get a GTX 680.
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post #3 of 11
I am a Nvidia fan, but 670's are in small supply, you could spend months waiting for one to pop up (I here once every 2 weeks there is a 2 hour window), so AMD is still the way to go. This is $30 over budget, the reason why is that it had to have high cooling potential, in your small amount of space, This is about 2 CM smaller than your case's max size, so it will be tight, but this is the smallest on the market! I checked over 10 different makes and models, this one can also hit 900 Mhz, (they have for 20 dollar's more a OC one @900) so you should at least hit it up to there. Also, when you upgrade to a PCIe x16 3.0 motherboard and ivy bridge (later on down the road) you will get even higher performance! it's a win win! Hope this helps...
post #4 of 11
As for the GTX 670...

TSMC has given Nvidia priority in manufacturing, so availability should come up soon.

There are two version of the GTX 670, one using the GTX 680 reference board, and a non-reference model that is a bit shorter. You would want to try and look for this one.
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post #5 of 11
multiplayer or singleplayer?

Honestly at lowest graphics settings (no AA either) & a 1920x1080 resolution your graphics card should be MORE than capable of running BF3 at high fps. It's a whole different beast at higher graphics settings, of course. If you're playing multiplayer, you're pretty much stuck. There, unlike single-player, CPU power can hold you back. But you have one of the best possible (non-overclocked) CPUs available.

So if it's multiplayer where you're having a problem, then you'll need to get an overclockable CPU, which still might not get you the performance you desire, and is a pretty dang expensive upgrade for just being able to overclock. If it's singleplayer, then CPU shouldn't matter at all, but I'm shocked you're having such problems on lowest with a pretty powerful GPU.
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post #6 of 11
try disabling hyper-threading and setting affinities..
Umm..Your RAM is kinda gimpy..SB platform runs 2133 without a hitch..
I'd say RAM ..get some of this: MV-3V4G3D/US Google it..right now supply is low..demand is high
PS That RAM will run @ 2133 9-10-10-28-96 with 1.52v
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post #7 of 11
SB runs 2133 without a hitch.

But it sees only a small benefit for RAM speeds over 1333mhz, and vanishingly small benefits for RAM speeds over 1600mhz, particularly in gaming. Changing RAM will not make a noticeable difference.
    
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post #8 of 11
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My MB doesn't allow RAM to run @ over 1333Mhz and uprading the RAM is the least of my worries at the moment lol
post #9 of 11
Sound!!!

No, I'm not bias!

Honestly, or a gaming mouse and mousepad. All very affordable.
Gaming with crappy sound is so so bad. Sound is very much part of the gaming experience.
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post #10 of 11
For $500, I would spend $400 on a GTX670 and then $100 on a 120gb SSD. biggrin.gif
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