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2012 TC Changes Discussion #1 - Expanding the Cat2 PPD limit - Page 3

Poll Results: Give your preliminary opinions on the matter.

 
  • 10% (1)
    Expand cat2 to gtx 460 level
  • 10% (1)
    Expand cat2 to 20k level
  • 10% (1)
    Keep cat2 as is
  • 70% (7)
    Keep cat2 as is but add a cat3 with a 15-20k ppd cap
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post #21 of 111
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zodac View Post

The reason i5 7xxs were allowed in were because they fit in nowhere else, and this was a category that was (originally) designed for quad core CPUs. Before the i5s came out, the 9800GX2 was the untouchable hardware in that position.

Is the only advance we're looking at to allow in the GTX 460?

No. It was also suggested that we increase the ppd cap to 20k ppd. That would allow gtx 470's and other things in too. Possibly even i5 2500's and 2400's?
 
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At what point does this start to interfere with other categories though? If you're looking at 20k, it's not much more to 22/25k. And at that stage you may as well integrate it with the X6/2500k/Bloom category too...

 

Bearing in mind the best Fermi is ~22k, 20k might be a bit too much for Cat2.

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post #23 of 111
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Fermi's can get well over 25k. Plus the old fermi's need a home, they can't compete with the high end fermi's.
 
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post #24 of 111

How many models of Fermis can get 25k? I dont' recall a GTX 570 getting up that high on a consistent basis.

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post #25 of 111
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Anubis said his 480 can get 24k, which means a 570 can get more than that, and a 580 can do even more.
 
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post #26 of 111
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Anubis said his 480 can get 24k, which means a 570 can get more than that, and a 580 can do even more.

http://folding.scienceontheweb.net/stats/summary.html

24995.2 with the 8020 WU's.
post #27 of 111

The leading Fermi in March and April was finrod's GTX 580 - in March the PPD was 23k; in April, 22k.

 

HFM peaking up to 24k for a couple of WUs is one thing, but being able to consistently output that amount of PPD is another.

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post #28 of 111
Quote:
Originally Posted by zodac View Post

The leading Fermi in March and April was finrod's GTX 580 - in March the PPD was 23k; in April, 22k.

HFM peaking up to 24k for a couple of WUs is one thing, but being able to consistently output that amount of PPD is another.

Ah, gotcha, I've been getting around 23k in actual PPD, but every other day or so I get 5 WU's in and get 28k, today I would have gotten 5 in, but I shut down my box for an hour. Check out my EOC the last couple days as I've only been folding on one GTX480, and my i7 for OCNChimpin.
post #29 of 111
The big problem we have now in cat2 is that the GTS 450 (which is the best fermi allowed) can get as low as 7k ppd with the new wu's out there vs 12-15k ppd the older i5 cpu's get. That is too big of a gap. If we open up the cat to 20k ppd we can bring pretty much all quad core cpus(- 2500k) and gpu's up to GTX 470/GTX 560's(not 448 core one). That will make things interesting for sure and make it easy bring people that have no room in any other category.
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The big problem we have now in cat2 is that the GTS 450 (which is the best fermi allowed) can get as low as 7k ppd with the new wu's out there vs 12-15k ppd the older i5 cpu's get. That is too big of a gap. If we open up the cat to 20k ppd we can bring pretty much all quad core cpus(- 2500k) and gpu's up to GTX 470/GTX 560's(not 448 core one). That will make things interesting for sure and make it easy bring people that have no room in any other category.

This. But I don't know if up to 20k is the answer, either, but I'm fine with it, at least it gives more options to cat2.
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