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2012 TC Changes Discussion #1 - Expanding the Cat2 PPD limit - Page 4

Poll Results: Give your preliminary opinions on the matter.

 
  • 10% (1)
    Expand cat2 to gtx 460 level
  • 10% (1)
    Expand cat2 to 20k level
  • 10% (1)
    Keep cat2 as is
  • 70% (7)
    Keep cat2 as is but add a cat3 with a 15-20k ppd cap
10 Total Votes  
post #31 of 111

So, at 20k add:

 

460SE

460

465

470

550

550ti

560 (not ti)

2500

2600

 

I am seeing the point here though. Even though f1nrod averaged 23k PPD last month, he too was plagued with work units that were less PPD. mach1 was doing over 20k with a 560ti. I know 480, 560ti, 570 580 are all capable of consistently doing over 20k.

 

I see the opposing point though. 20k does make the lower stuff not as competitive in the category. Maybe we should think about a 10k cat and a 10-20k cat?

 
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post #32 of 111
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BWG View Post

So, at 20k add:

460SE
460
465
470
550
550ti
560 (not ti)
2500
2600

I am seeing the point here though. Even though f1nrod averaged 23k PPD last month, he too was plagued with work units that were less PPD. mach1 was doing over 20k with a 560ti. I know 480, 560ti, 570 580 are all capable of consistently doing over 20k.

I see the opposing point though. 20k does make the lower stuff not as competitive in the category. Maybe we should think about a 10k cat and a 10-20k cat?

This would have multiple benefits. A high level cat would allow the lower end of the high end stuff to still be competitive, while the lower cat would allow the low end stuff to be competitive. And an overall plus would be that it'd increase the total number of participants in the TC, increasing ppd overall thumb.gif


Also, if I don't make much sense it's because I didn't sleep last night biggrin.gif
 
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post #33 of 111
Quote:
Originally Posted by BWG View Post

So, at 20k add:

460SE
460
465
470
550
550ti
560 (not ti)
2500
2600

I am seeing the point here though. Even though f1nrod averaged 23k PPD last month, he too was plagued with work units that were less PPD. mach1 was doing over 20k with a 560ti. I know 480, 560ti, 570 580 are all capable of consistently doing over 20k.

I see the opposing point though. 20k does make the lower stuff not as competitive in the category. Maybe we should think about a 10k cat and a 10-20k cat?

It seems you would almost have to, to keep the competition fair, I mean i5 2400's vs a gts 450 isn't exactly a fair fight.
Edited by anubis1127 - 5/15/12 at 8:39am
post #34 of 111
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Quote:
Originally Posted by anubis1127 View Post

It seems you would almost have to, to keep the competition fair, I mean i5 2400's vs a gtx450 isn't exactly a fair fight.

I figure most people would eventually retire their 450's and upgrade tongue.gif

Either that or they could get a 2nd 450 (like you can get 2 8800gt's or 9800gt's now)
 
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post #35 of 111
Quote:
Originally Posted by G3RG View Post

I figure most people would eventually retire their 450's and upgrade tongue.gif
Either that or they could get a 2nd 450 (like you can get 2 8800gt's or 9800gt's now)

Yeah, you'd think that. Except for the fact that I can't afford to do that. And there are others in the same boat. So I would probably have to drop from that Cat and have to use my X6 in a Category somewhere. If that was possible without booting someone from my team. And even then due to some weird issue with my rig I am only clearing about 8-10k on my X6. I have no idea what the heck is going on.
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post #36 of 111

I'm not in favour of adding more categories to the teams - we're struggling enough with 6 per team; 7 is gonna make things worse.

 

I think we need to accept that hardware moves on. It's the same for Fermi - GTX 470s aren't good enough, and so are replaced by better hardware (or by members with better hardware).

 

We can only keep on supporting hardware for so long. :/

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post #37 of 111
Quote:
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I'm not in favour of adding more categories to the teams - we're struggling enough with 6 per team; 7 is gonna make things worse.

I think we need to accept that hardware moves on. It's the same for Fermi - GTX 470s aren't good enough, and so are replaced by better hardware (or by members with better hardware).

We can only keep on supporting hardware for so long. :/

Im thinking the same. Its time to replace the older gear on Cat2 with something that will include newer lower end gear that is common among folders. The newer gear is more energy efficient and runs cooler too. thumb.gif
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So GTS450 and perhaps some of the other gear in Cat2 is not common? I see a lot of GTS450 folding because it is a great value card that gets great PPD for the price. But if its time to move on to something else then it's time. I am one of those that will not be able to upgrade any time soon and will have to either drop from the competition, boot someone from my team so I can take their spot, or step down as Captain and fill a spot on another team. By dropping the lower end gear we have currently for a new set of lower end gear you end up losing a lot of folders and then have to spend a lot of time refilling the slots emptied.
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I find it ironic that the only person in the TC that actively recruits is also the person that recommended adding more positions... Everybody else seems to disagree with him. I think the only reason we can't fill spots is BECAUSE he's the only person recruiting.
 
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Because I didn't do it for a good 18 months?

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