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Poll Results: Move i7 920's (including 930's, 940's, 950's, and 960's)

 
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5/26/12 at 4:13am
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Short term, yes, but if people are moving to SB-E/IB, but we can't fit them into the TC nicely because of -hugeadv PPD, that'll end up hurting OCN PPD too...

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5/26/12 at 4:30am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zodac View Post

Short term, yes, but if people are moving to SB-E/IB, but we can't fit them into the TC nicely because of -hugeadv PPD, that'll end up hurting OCN PPD too...

We have nearly enough/enough SBe folders to make a category for them now.
We have ATLEAST enough for 1.5 divisions now.



Also I missed my 2000ndththththth post by 5 posts mad.gif
Edited by G3RG - 5/26/12 at 4:32am
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5/26/12 at 4:36am
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If that were true, the way forward is to change i7-1 and i7-2 into SB-E and SB, with exceptions for Gulftown and IB. But I haven't seen 20, properly OC'd SB-E CPUs, Folding 20+ hrs on Linux, who aren't already in the TC, so moot point.

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5/26/12 at 4:38am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zodac View Post

If that were true, the way forward is to change i7-1 and i7-2 into SB-E and SB, with exceptions for Gulftown and IB. But I haven't seen 20, properly OC'd SB-E CPUs, Folding 20+ hrs on Linux, who aren't already in the TC, so moot point.

There aren't any SBe cpus in the TC tongue.gif
Plus they don't NEED to be in native linux.... I counted out 12 for BWG to pm...
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5/26/12 at 4:40am
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A Folder can't take on two roles - if they're in the TC already, they might not wanna move positions to SB-E.

 

And while Linux isn't written into the rules, for the primary position in a team, you would be expected to. And yet there aren't many of them around.

 

Next, 12 isn't 20. Last time we made a new Cat (AMD GPUs), it wasn't replacing anything, so we could be empty in a few slots. Changing one of the i7s would mean we'd have to cull 20 i7 Folders currently Folding...

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5/26/12 at 4:43am
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Quote:
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A Folder can't take on two roles - if they're in the TC already, they might not wanna move positions to SB-E.

And while Linux isn't written into the rules, for the primary position in a team, you would be expected to. And yet there aren't many of them around.

Next, 12 isn't 20. Last time we made a new Cat (AMD GPUs), it wasn't replacing anything, so we could be empty in a few slots. Changing one of the i7s would mean we'd have to cull 20 i7 Folders currently Folding...

I counted 12 in under 5 mins. That's 12 currently active folders. I'm sure given an afternoon or even less you could find 20. Also the majority of cpu folders in the TC fold in VM's.... not native linux. You can't expect SBe folders to fold 20 hours+ natively lol...
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5/26/12 at 4:48am
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Where did I say native?

 

Besides, finding 12 Folders doesn't mean you've got 12 TC Folders.

 

And you're missing an important point. While your team might have empty i7 spots, most of the others do not. Changing the whole category would result in having to basically tell ~19 Folders to leave the TC. And I'm not doing that.

 

So we fit in SB-E with SB/Gulftown as we have now, and IB if possible. But we still don't have PPD values, and we don't know whether we're allow -hugeadv for i7-1, for i7-1 and i7-2, or not at all...

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Who said anything about removing 19 folders o_O

I would NEVER agree to adding a SBe section while removing an i7 position... that'd be beyond idiotic.


We can assemble the future Sbe category in the Div3 until your slaves get around to being able to adding another category.
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5/26/12 at 4:55am
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So instead you're calling for a 3rd i7 category? I'd say that's equally idiotic.

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wth.gif The TC was designed to increase overall ppd while giving us some friendly competition. It does the job well. I don't get why you refuse to use this to our benefit.
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