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By the way as far as water cooling goes The Corsair H60 vs H100 is only 3 ° Celsius difference not worth the extra $40 dollars in my opinion

your first mistake is saying the either the h60 or the h100 are water cooling. They are Cpu coolers, that perform like High end air heatsinks. A custom water loop is loads and bounds better.

As far as the comparison between the h100 and the h60, the difference is much higher than 3c. its like 5-10c. When the fans are operating in quiet. If you max the fans out the h60 does a good job of cooling a processor like the h100 does. However when your talking about overclocked heat loads the h100 is leaps and bounds better than the h60. Esp when we are talking about bulldozer. The heat output of the processor, ie Bulldozer in this case is 300-400watts. The h60 cannot cope with that sort of heat. The h100 cannot either for that matter, but it does a better job.

My antec 920 is about the same performance as the h100 and its not enough cooling power for the most extreme overclocks. I can run 5.2ghz at 1.55 volts but the fans have to be at full blast, to keep temps under the control. When the processors are at stock speeds the difference between the h60 and h100 is small, But when talking about extreme overclocks the difference is quite large. Do not compare a custom water cooling loop to these self contained liquid units. Custom loops are vastly superior, esp when talking about 360 and larger radiators.

Also Cpu Northbridge voltage does not effect the stability of the CPU at higher clocks. It only really effects the speed of the northbridge. You need to raise the vcore on the chip to achieve higher clock rates, rather than the northbridge voltage. Now this doesn't mean you will not need to tweak the northbridge voltage to achieve stability at the higher clocks. To run at 5.2ghz i must increase the northbridge voltage by .25 volts, and vcore to 1.55volts. Along with some other tweaks, but i won't get into that. Most important voltage when it comes to Cpu speed is vcore. Northbridge voltage is only used in most cases to stabilize a overclock of the northbridge speed. Ie 2400mhz vs 2200mhz.
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i should wanted for fx-8350 10GHz Liquid Cooled Helium
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i should wanted for fx-8350 10GHz Liquid Cooled Helium

Good luck, best i have achieved is 7.6ghz on two cores with ln2. Granted helium provides cooler temps. World record is 8ghz on two cores, on bulldzoer. Pile driver might fair a tad bit better, but certainly not 10ghz.
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your first mistake is saying the either the h60 or the h100 are water cooling. They are Cpu coolers, that perform like High end air heatsinks. A custom water loop is loads and bounds better.
As far as the comparison between the h100 and the h60, the difference is much higher than 3c. its like 5-10c. When the fans are operating in quiet. If you max the fans out the h60 does a good job of cooling a processor like the h100 does. However when your talking about overclocked heat loads the h100 is leaps and bounds better than the h60. Esp when we are talking about bulldozer. The heat output of the processor, ie Bulldozer in this case is 300-400watts. The h60 cannot cope with that sort of heat. The h100 cannot either for that matter, but it does a better job.
My antec 920 is about the same performance as the h100 and its not enough cooling power for the most extreme overclocks. I can run 5.2ghz at 1.55 volts but the fans have to be at full blast, to keep temps under the control. When the processors are at stock speeds the difference between the h60 and h100 is small, But when talking about extreme overclocks the difference is quite large. Do not compare a custom water cooling loop to these self contained liquid units. Custom loops are vastly superior, esp when talking about 360 and larger radiators.
Also Cpu Northbridge voltage does not effect the stability of the CPU at higher clocks. It only really effects the speed of the northbridge. You need to raise the vcore on the chip to achieve higher clock rates, rather than the northbridge voltage. Now this doesn't mean you will not need to tweak the northbridge voltage to achieve stability at the higher clocks. To run at 5.2ghz i must increase the northbridge voltage by .25 volts, and vcore to 1.55volts. Along with some other tweaks, but i won't get into that. Most important voltage when it comes to Cpu speed is vcore. Northbridge voltage is only used in most cases to stabilize a overclock of the northbridge speed. Ie 2400mhz vs 2200mhz.

So is there a better quality genuine water cooler readily available for less than $150?
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I noticed that..they hushed that up real quick..anyways..7% IPC increase over BD
er..they'd need like..27% (number i pulled out of butt) to beat phenom II Deneb/Thuban.
 
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thuban is 15% faster per clock than bulldozer.

Deneb is only 10-12% faster. (improvements to thuban core) Pile driver will get half that back, + more frequency. Amd users rocking the 1100T will have a upgrade path

So someone from the AMD event was awarded the FX-8350 and decided to do some benchmarks

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1722207

Might not be known but most Review sites have their hands on them now, but are under NDA
Edited by ebduncan - 10/13/12 at 9:55pm
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don't really care if they are for sale right now. I care for the reviews in a few hours. Ok not even really concerned with the reviews, just want to see what the common overclock is. If its 5ghz+ then i will buy one. I like the price of the 8350.

and the 6300@ 139$ is a STEAL!
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