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Looks like Oct 12 release according to this ... http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2012/2012092001_Pre-order_prices_of_AMD_FX_Piledriver_CPUs.html

and this ... http://www.shopblt.com/cgi-bin/s.cgi?order_id=!ORDERID!&s_max=25&t_all=1&s_all=HKBOX

...8350 ETA ...http://www.shopblt.com/item/amd-fx-8350-8c-processor-am3/amd_fd8350frhkbox.html

Edit: forgot to mention I saw this info at ExtremeSystems forums
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thanks reps +1

    
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AMD’s FX-Vishera launch has been confirmed on 23rd October thanks to Xbitlabs. The FX-Vishera was already confirmed to launch sometime in October 2012 so now we have a much official date of AMD’s new microprocessors which would replace the past years Zambezi CPUs.

 

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20120921231354_AMD_Sets_the_FX_Vishera_Launch_Date.html

 

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It is noteworthy that the high-end AMD FX-8300-series processors based on Piledriver micro-architecture are priced higher than Intel Core i5 "Ivy Bridge" chips. Potentially, this means that AMD now expects its microprocessors to successfully compete against performance-mainstream products by arch-rival Intel, which is generally a good news as presently-available FX-family CPUs have failed to beat similarly-positioned Core i5 "Sandy Bridge" chips last year. On the other hand, since prices are not official, they may be artificially bumped up.

 


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Originally Posted by ebduncan View Post

piledriver core is not much better than the bulldozer core in terms of performance. It has some tweaks, and better power characteristics but that is about it.
look for 5-10% bump in performance over bulldozer at the same clock speed.
Overall, don't expect to be wowed by this chip. That will happen with Steam Roller. Which has major architectural fixes.
Beg your pardon' it would nice if you knew what you are talking about . The piledriver is 15% faster on IPC than bulldozer. That is Not chump change. Wait until actual official benchmarks are run after release date. The OBR benches are fraudulent and he has a track history of deception as a shill for Intel. I fully expect this chip to give the I7 2600k a run for the money definitely wiping it out for multithreaded apps like Photoshop and holding its own for gaming apps.
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I hope that is the case. That would put the 8350 in a very nice place! BTW the prices were leaked. The numbers are
4300 for $130
6300 for $175
8320 for $240
8350 for $250
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Beg your pardon' it would nice if you knew what you are talking about . The piledriver is 15% faster on IPC than bulldozer. That is Not chump change. Wait until actual official benchmarks are run after release date. The OBR benches are fraudulent and he has a track history of deception as a shill for Intel. I fully expect this chip to give the I7 2600k a run for the money definitely wiping it out for multithreaded apps like Photoshop and holding its own for gaming apps.

Call me ignorant all you like. Do you know what changes they made to the core? I would suggest you look it up. If you think piledriver is going to have 15% more ipc then i'm sorry just not going to happen. Amd Promised 10-15% more performance. Its like 5% better IPC the other 10% coming from clock speed.

There are actually a few benchmarks floating around other than OBR now.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1291114/coolaler-amd-piledriver-fx-vishera-engineering-sample-benchmarks/560

Pile-Driver is a tweaked Bulldozer core, the only differences are TLB overflow, some better branch prediction, and lastly clock resonant mesh which reduces power requirements by 10% or 10% more clock speed for the same TDP. Hate to bust your bubble.

If you looking for big improvements Pile Driver is not the answer, you have to look at the next Generation of Bulldozer core, aka Steam Roller, before they will get alot faster. Due to AMD going in and fixing major architectural bottlenecks. One of those is the decoder, currently 2 integer cores and 1 fpu share a decoder. This bottle neck is addressed, and combined with a node shrink 28nm. Steam Roller might actually flatten Intel, might being the key word as it will be positioned against Intel Haswell.
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Call me ignorant all you like. Do you know what changes they made to the core? I would suggest you look it up. If you think piledriver is going to have 15% more ipc then i'm sorry just not going to happen. Amd Promised 10-15% more performance. Its like 5% better IPC the other 10% coming from clock speed.
There are actually a few benchmarks floating around other than OBR now.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1291114/coolaler-amd-piledriver-fx-vishera-engineering-sample-benchmarks/560
Pile-Driver is a tweaked Bulldozer core, the only differences are TLB overflow, some better branch prediction, and lastly clock resonant mesh which reduces power requirements by 10% or 10% more clock speed for the same TDP. Hate to bust your bubble.
If you looking for big improvements Pile Driver is not the answer, you have to look at the next Generation of Bulldozer core, aka Steam Roller, before they will get alot faster. Due to AMD going in and fixing major architectural bottlenecks. One of those is the decoder, currently 2 integer cores and 1 fpu share a decoder. This bottle neck is addressed, and combined with a node shrink 28nm. Steam Roller might actually flatten Intel, might being the key word as it will be positioned against Intel Haswell.

I hate to burst your bubble, but Piledriver cores from the A10-5800 APU have already been stacked again BD cores in the 8150, and show 15% improvement in both single threaded and multithreaded:




If you can do simple math, you'll see both of those results are just over 15% improvement.

source:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/a10-5800k-a8-5600k-a6-5400k,3224-2.html


I agree that steamroller is the big design change, but i think we can expect decent upgrades to the current BD chips.

and if not, I'll just buy that A10-5800K and clock it to 4.4 ghz thumb.gif

Because hey, that A10 APU already has 15% better IPC than bulldozer. wink.gif
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Everyone's an expert on yet to be released hardware biggrin.gif
Don't get your hopes up on 5ghz and 15% ipc increase lol

Well to bad , 15% increase in IPC is a FACT not a hope. Even Tom's Hardware concedes that. Infinity has the same basic technical design as Piledriver. It is 15% better than the previous APU in IPC. There is absolutely no reason at all that Pildriver will not have the same result. AMD has put itself on the record that Piledriver will have 15% better than Bulldozer as well. You Intel fan boys will have to suck it up and admit that the FX-8350 is better than an I7 2600k when the dust settles.
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Well to bad , 15% increase in IPC is a FACT not a hope. Even Tom's Hardware concedes that. Infinity has the same basic technical design as Piledriver. It is 15% better than the previous APU in IPC. There is absolutely no reason at all that Pildriver will not have the same result. AMD has put itself on the record that Piledriver will have 15% better than Bulldozer as well. You Intel fan boys will have to suck it up and admit that the FX-3250 is better than an I7 2600k when the dust settles.

i don't agree with that yet. 15% is still way off a 2600K. It's much much closer though, no question there, and 3 times the improvement between SB and IB.

So it seems AMD's head is in the right place. Steamroller seems like the big one to shoot for, but piledriver is still looking to be a massive improvement. That should be the FX series competitive again, against the offerings from intel, in single threaded applications.
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Well to bad , 15% increase in IPC is a FACT not a hope. Even Tom's Hardware concedes that. Infinity has the same basic technical design as Piledriver. It is 15% better than the previous APU in IPC. There is absolutely no reason at all that Pildriver will not have the same result. AMD has put itself on the record that Piledriver will have 15% better than Bulldozer as well. You Intel fan boys will have to suck it up and admit that the FX-8350 is better than an I7 2600k when the dust settles.

Except that there's actually no proof of the FX8350 having proper piledriver cores in it. Also as has been stated AMD promised 15% more performance, not 15% better IPC.

Here's some food for thought:
Quote:


cine 11.5 score:



8150 at the same clocks:



Source

Unfortunately I just don't see 15% better IPC happening.
 
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