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Is anyone else afraid that AMD is being very huss-mouth about PD?

It's not a big mystery. The new Trinity APU Piledriver based core performance has already been benchmarked against Bulldozer. The Ghz speed of the Vishera CPUs are basically known. Vishera/Piledriver isn't going to be that much faster than that level of performance. Though it will benefit from a L3 cache. Trinity only has 2 layers of cache.

The only real questions are how well do they overclock and how much power do they use.
post #72 of 141
Three monitors, new desk, new peripherals, and software takes up a chunk of that budget thumb.gif

And no an FX is not better in those tasks than an i5-2500K.
post #73 of 141
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Three monitors, new desk, new peripherals, and software takes up a chunk of that budget

And no an FX is not better in those tasks than an i5-2500K.

actually it is. Ask my room-mate or look up benchmarks. MY fx @ 4.9ghz walks over his 2500k at 4.5ghz in those tasks. With the exception of gaming with same video cards. In my case my 7870 crossfire beats his single 7970.

3dsmax 2012, povray, compiling code in visual studio 2012, photoshop cs5 (at least the mutithreaded filters), aes compression (work required), cyberlink powerdirector 11, 7zip (file compression)

are the applications i use mostly.
Edited by ebduncan - 9/26/12 at 5:32pm
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I'll give Bulldozer a hair of an advantage in select tasks / benches but overall it still gets crushed across a number of tests particularly in single threaded applications and games. Even older Thuban chips like the Phenom II X6 1100T beats it at these same tasks which in the eyes of many is considered a failure.

Sadly, where it shines (Multithreaded Applications) it doesn't separate itself far enough from Intel chips to justify picking it over the 2500K. Throw in ugly power consumption and the fact that it is harder to overclock as it is more picky about its voltages therefore is going to require a more robust cooling solution pretty much eliminates whatever compelling reason to get one if there were any to begin with...

8150 vs. 2500K
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I'll give Bulldozer a hair of an advantage in select tasks / benches but overall it still gets crushed across a number of tests particularly in single threaded applications and games......[/URL]

If you can somehow manage to overcome your hardware insecurities, you'd realize that 81XX Series CPU's do really well, especially when compared to the i5 line. I suggest you try one yourself, THEN offer to lend an opinion. Those of us who have had both will tell you that the "real world" differences are almost non-existent. Piledriver will only drive this point further home.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1210060/fx8120-vs-2500k-benchmark-results

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post #76 of 141
Hardware insecurity? Hardly but call it whatever you'd like. My argument is backed by thousands of personal testimonies throughout the web and numerous reputable sources. For one user like yourself that has used Bulldozer, there are countless more that have been disappointed. Frankly, disappointment eventually turns into acceptance. Clearly the case here thumb.gif

HardwareSecrets: "We can summarize the AMD FX-8150 in one word: "disappointment." We expected much more from this eight-core CPU based on the highly anticipated "Bulldozer" architecture.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/AMD-FX-8150-vs-Core-i5-2500K-and-Core-i7-2600K-CPU-Review/1402/18

Tomshardware: "Sometimes FX manages to outperform the higher-end -2600K, but other times it’s embarrassingly bested by its predecessor in threaded workloads. Toss a single-threaded app at the processor, though, and it underperforms Intel's three-year-old Core i7-920 running at its stock 2.66 GHz. AMD’s architects say they shot to maintain IPC and ramp up clock rate, but something clearly went wrong along the way."

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8150-zambezi-bulldozer-990fx,3043-24.html
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Hardware insecurity? .......

Thousands? Really? Where can I find em? Hmmm, sounds to me like someones trying to justify their purchase by putting down everyone else's.

I've had i5's before. Im not impressed. Im offering first hand knowledge while you're in here offering heaps of emotion and opinion and presenting them as fact. You jelly you didn't get an i7? Is that why youre in here; to try and make yourself feel better? I dont see how hoping that Piledriver fails, and convincing yourself that BD is bad, is going to help you any....

Take the time to look through Computerparts work. They're damn close, and YOU would never be able to tell the diff. in the real world. Thats a FACT, not an opinion, backed by those with FIRSTHAND knowledge, not trolls posting links.
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post #78 of 141
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actually it is.

No, the FX falls behind the 2500K in almost everthing, with a few exceptions being programs hardly anyone uses.

And when it comes to games, it falls behind even the i3's rolleyes.gif
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Thousands? Really? Where can I find em? Hmmm, sounds to me like someones trying to justify their purchase by putting down everyone else's.
I've had i5's before. Im not impressed. Im offering first hand knowledge while you're in here offering heaps of emotion and opinion and presenting them as fact. You jelly you didn't get an i7? Is that why youre in here; to try and make yourself feel better? I dont see how hoping that Piledriver fails, and convincing yourself that BD is bad, is going to help you any....
Take the time to look through Computerparts work. They're damn close, and YOU would never be able to tell the diff. in the real world. Thats a FACT, not an opinion, backed by those with FIRSTHAND knowledge, not trolls posting links.

This. +1
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This. +1
thumb.gif You deserve another +1 2advanced.
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