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I have no idea if AMD plans to throw L3 cache in the Llano but i was thinking, why dont amd make a cpu with some extra bulk to it?
like this:
3ghz Black edition quadcore with 640 radeon cores and 8mb L3 cache?
basically an FX-4100 with 8mb L3 cache and 640 radeon cores at 650mhz?
or an FX-8150 core design with like 12mb L3 cache, 800 streams (600mhz)? maybe with something new like onboard cache or enhanced latency?
just some opinions, what do u guys think?
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They don't do that because the TDP of the processors would be really high and the heat would be absolutely overwhelming. You would *have* to use a liquid CPU cooler for that kind of power.
The tiny Llano processors like the A8-3850's already have a TDP of 100W. Imagine how much it would be for your case scenario listed above.
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They don't do that because the TDP of the processors would be really high and the heat would be absolutely overwhelming. You would *have* to use a liquid CPU cooler for that kind of power.
The tiny Llano processors like the A8-3850's already have a TDP of 100W. Imagine how much it would be for your case scenario listed above.

oh damn, i didnt realize it, yet alone i barely thought about it. maybe with 22nm they could keep it a BE quadcore, with a little more kick in the streams, and still some L3 cache, its be nice to see atleast 2mb of it thrown in one.
L3 cache is kind of a big thing for me, and i do like the APU's but the lack of L3 sucks.
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A8 APU's are meant for HTPC's/low end gaming machines.
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I have no idea if AMD plans to throw L3 cache in the Llano but i was thinking, why dont amd make a cpu with some extra bulk to it?
like this:
3ghz Black edition quadcore with 640 radeon cores and 8mb L3 cache?
basically an FX-4100 with 8mb L3 cache and 640 radeon cores at 650mhz?
or an FX-8150 core design with like 12mb L3 cache, 800 streams (600mhz)? maybe with something new like onboard cache or enhanced latency?
just some opinions, what do u guys think?


For the record they had planned those, i think the names were with a p at the end so (8130p) for instance but they got scrapped.
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