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I think we are up to about 15 matte panels and no defects, a little bit of light bleed on one. Thats it.
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Originally Posted by austinpike View Post

... speaking of misinformation...

Can you point to any link/review/discussion of any IPS monitor that says it has better blacks than a TN panel?
Can you point to any link/review/discussion of this monitor that says it is anything less than a "real" IPS?

Did you see either post where I directly compared it to another IPS monitor with basically the same panel?
Listen if you're happy with the monitor then great, The fact of the matter is this is NOT an IPS quality monitor. The image quality it produces is of TN panel quality and comparing it to other TN panels I have it has WORSE black levels than the TN panels due to the pre-set calibrations used that you can NOT change. There are no if ands or buts about it as it has been confirmed again and again.

The FACTS about this monitors
  • Produces TN or worse black levels due to poor pre-set and unchangeable factory calibrations. This washes out the entire image quality of the display.
  • Input lag is very high if switching to any other resolution other than native 1440p.
  • Many options in the OSD menu are simply broken and do not work like DCR. Preset calibrations in the OSD other than "standard" looks absolutely HORRENDOUS.
  • Anti-glare filter is by far the worst I have ever seen on any LCD monitor in my life. Screen looks like its COVERED in dust. This is inexcusable.

The ONLY way this monitor benefits over TN panels is with viewing angles but honestly I would give up viewing angles and buy a TN panel with better black levels, faster pixel response time, a CLEAN anti-glare filter, AND $200 less.
Edited by Grimster - 2/21/13 at 6:31pm
post #753 of 1116
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Originally Posted by austinpike View Post

... speaking of misinformation...

Can you point to any link/review/discussion of any IPS monitor that says it has better blacks than a TN panel?
Can you point to any link/review/discussion of this monitor that says it is anything less than a "real" IPS?

Did you see either post where I directly compared it to another IPS monitor with basically the same panel?
Listen if you're happy with the monitor then great, The fact of the matter is this is NOT an IPS quality monitor. The image quality it produces is of TN panel quality and comparing it to other TN panels I have it has WORSE black levels than the TN panels due to the pre-set calibrations used that you can NOT change. There are no if ands or buts about it as it has been confirmed again and again.

The FACTS about this monitors
  • Produces TN or worse black levels due to poor pre-set and unchangeable factory calibrations. This washes out the entire image quality of the display.
  • Input lag is very high if switching to any other resolution other than native 1440p.
  • Many options in the OSD menu are simply broken and do not work like DCR. Preset calibrations in the OSD other than "standard" looks absolutely HORRENDOUS.
  • Anti-glare filter is by far the worst I have ever seen on any LCD monitor in my life. Screen looks like its COVERED in dust. This is inexcusable.

The ONLY way this monitor benefits over TN panels is with viewing angles but honestly I would give up viewing angles and buy a TN panel with better black levels, faster pixel response time, a CLEAN anti-glare filter, AND $200 less.

IPS typically don't have as strong of blacks because TN's crush the living hell out of blacks. It seems like it's better, and it might look better as far as perception goes, but the IPS is more accurate. As to the AG on this, I can't comment as I have a glossy display.

But keep on thinking what you will smile.gif
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Listen if you're happy with the monitor then great, (...argumentative BS...)

The FACTS about this monitors
(...a bunch of subjective bull****...)

(...more subjective bs...)

Your criticisms are unfounded and have already been addressed multiple times by myself and others in this thread. At no point have you produced any sort of objective analysis nor responded directly to my questions regarding color calibration & a calibrated workflow, or specific quantifiable data such as cd/m2 levels on this panel versus others.

This is the last I'll comment on your ridiculous subjective claims. If anyone else wishes to know why Grimstar is an idiot, see any of my previous posts.

(Also, you can do scaling on your GPU or the display itself (when using a non-native resolution). You don't even specify which option you tried! You're a troll who knows how to bullet point his paragraphs, and that's it. G.T.F.O.)
    
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IPS typically don't have as strong of blacks because TN's crush the living hell out of blacks. It seems like it's better, and it might look better as far as perception goes, but the IPS is more accurate. As to the AG on this, I can't comment as I have a glossy display.

But keep on thinking what you will smile.gif
This is absolutely hilarious, what world are you living in???? Normal IPS panel based monitors have superior black levels over TN panels. Your comment is the funniest thing I have heard in a long time. Besides, you have the glossy version which has 100% completely different panel and internal electronics to the matte version. They are two completely different monitors
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Your criticisms are unfounded and have already been addressed multiple times by myself and others in this thread. At no point have you produced any sort of objective analysis nor responded directly to my questions regarding color calibration & a calibrated workflow, or specific quantifiable data such as cd/m2 levels on this panel versus others.

This is the last I'll comment on your ridiculous subjective claims. If anyone else wishes to know why Grimstar is an idiot, see any of my previous posts.

(Also, you can do scaling on your GPU or the display itself (when using a non-native resolution). You don't even specify which option you tried! You're a troll who knows how to bullet point his paragraphs, and that's it. G.T.F.O.)
Easy....I LOOK at it and have compared this unit to quite a few monitors side-by-side. Also, you still dont understand that ANY scaling, either done by the monitor or GPU produces heavy input lag and there is NO way around this since the monitor does not do 1:1 pixel mapping. This is why when switching to any resolution other than native 1440p produces heavy lag.
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J/W Anybody using the Displayport? How is it as compared to DVI-D?
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J/W Anybody using the Displayport? How is it as compared to DVI-D?

i have mine connected via displayport (glossy version). I honestly dont know if it's any better than DVI since I've never tried. Picture is as good as my 27" imac at work though.

cool that audio is passed through if you dont have speakers.
 
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@Grimster

I have no input lag, regardless of the resolution. I've tested it in half of a dozen games now, and have no issues (1440p, 1080p, 720p). The response is very crisp and tight. My black level performance is fine, as I'm able to distinguish between all the blacks, admittedly I'm not hitting 0, but it's definitely good enough. The matte screen becomes less of an issue once the brightness is adjusted down. We get it, you didn't like it. We've gone over this. Go buy an apple display, or a dell display. Saying something like "I LOOK AT IT", is not a very scientific method, lol. You talk a lot, but don't have much to say.
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J/W Anybody using the Displayport? How is it as compared to DVI-D?

i have mine hooked up via the display port and thats also the only way I can get this monitor to work in BIOS. the only other way being VGA. I actually love it on display port and I did have it on DVI-D prior to switching.
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